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I mean one day we will have that pattern in place again but for the last few winters it’s been uniquely set up to shaft this area. The results speak for themselves.

Point and click has a low of 35, I’m at 27.

Down to 31. Frosty outside on the deck.

Frost was everywhere this morning here.

Down to 27. I think that qualifies as a hard freeze.

Temp down to 30.

Looks like the snow level about 2100 feet here based on the radar beam height where the CC starts to show a mix. Bright banding over the south shore shows way high up it is snowing. Too bad it can’t be a month later.

No doubt it’s been a chilly month so far. Even here we’re struggling to get past 45.

Said it many times, there’s no way in the long run NYC can get away with repeated 40” winters without reversion to the mean of mid-20s snow averages. Add CC and it gets worse.

Seems like to what extent there will be winter threats they’ll be focused on front end SWFE types and Miller Bs. They’re the best for New England, can be okay here and usually shut out south of the M/D line and west of NJ. Maybe there can be more suppressed systems like last year that can hit the places the Miller B and SWFE don’t.

Christmas 2002 was awesome. Totally out of the blue 6-8” in a few hours mostly with the closed ULL wraparound. I think the forecast was 1-3” but the low closed off in a great spot and the snow wrapped around from upstate NY.

My #2 favorite storm of all time. Jan 1996 is #1. Pretty sure though if I was around for Jan 2016 that would be my #1. The bullseye was actually over the south shore near JFK where it never is.

Best we can hope for with a stout -PNA is an overrunning snow to rain type system here with a retreating high. Or a sheared to nothing squeeze play system. We need the PNA to cooperate at least a little.

Fingers crossed, it does look like the pattern could be favorable to at least get us on the board. It might be an overrunning scenario with the SE ridge where NYC changes to rain, but we’d be on the board at least.

The storm tracks last winter which were favored because of the Pacific jet helped Cape May and places south of there. You could see over and over again how the fast flow knocked down western ridges and sent endless kicker shortwaves that interfered with any phasing or amplification. We need the western ridge or some kind of mechanism to amplify the flow and bring the storm up the coast.

But there’s a reason for the “bad luck” and that’s the Pacific jet is very unfavorable for good storm tracks here. We saw the western ridge keep getting knocked down and therefore storms couldn’t turn the corner last winter, or we would have too much of a SE ridge or the SE ridge link up with the Greenland block which causes inland tracks.

And then you see it posted/shared on Facebook and social media. Sad how hype/headlines sell in our society.

Awesome. How much is he asking for a monthly subscription?

I would really take any of those winters other than 24-25. 16-17, 17-18 and 21-22 were at least okay here. 17-18 of course was the biggest, 16-17 and 21-22 were okay to good. Thanks for the detailed analysis and thoughts.

Lots of instability showers around today-still quite cold aloft. Look at the upstate NY radar-lots of snow showers.

So much for mostly sunny today. More cloudy chilly gloom.

How many of them have a link they want you to click so they can get subscriptions? Look I don’t doubt there could be a cold/snowy December and many signs are pointing that way, but the “major cold and snow11!111!!” should be met with skepticism.

Yep, climate change I’m sure has a significant role but we were way overdue for a correction. NYC can’t get away with regular 40”+ winters. No way.

Not understanding how certain posters have “warm agendas” and they get trolled but we get weenie mets who clearly post cold/snow favorable maps for clicks and subscriptions quoted here. Trust me I want it to snow as much as anyone but the last 5-6 years generally have been very unfavorable for our area to do well. It’s reality and we don’t like it, but nature doesn’t care what we like. Sooner or later the “warm agenda” posters will likely be too conservative but they’ve reflected the reality much better since the regime changed in 2018-19. If we have a Pacific jet dominated winter again, it’s very unlikely we make it to normal snow.

Yep. What a nasty afternoon.