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January 28/29 Blizzard Observations/Discussion/Nowcasting
SnowGoose69 replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Ratios were around 11:1 based on the NYC measurement.... .69 liquid today 7.5 inches -
January 28/29 Blizzard Observations/Discussion/Nowcasting
SnowGoose69 replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
thats just today...its 8.7 for the event which is close to EWR/LGA -
Normally it happens in a transfer scenario but these lows we’ve seen in recent years like this probably are some product of the crazy warm WRN NATL SSTs/WAR/AGW issues is my guess because they’re a recent thing
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The few cases we’ve seen in the last decade where this was modeled the end result was often in the middle where there was a secondary low but you didn’t see the massive pulling of the precip field with it
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That’s about right. The far NW could be too high but a shift of 25-30 miles which is a logical error in this range will be a big difference if you’re from nassau back to the west edge of the area
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The RAP usually has a west bias at this range but it’s so far west there is room for a drift east if it’s got the right idea
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UKIE historically has had slight progressive bias with monster lows like this below 980 so it fits about with that with most other models now somewhat left of it
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Thats very much a mesoscale feature...the GFS is still a bit low grid to see that
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0 is unlikely but 2-3 sure could happen in a worst case scenario
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there was a storm a few winters ago where that happened and then at the last minute they all lost it. I don’t remember which it was but the forecasts all busted too low as a result of it
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This looks like the usual GFS last minute cave...at the same time I don't think this will be a case where we see the PA/NJ border end up getting 10-15 inches as we've seen in some prior cases like this. I would say NYC ends up around 8 in the end so maybe something near the NAM/RGEM idea now
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Its done that often in these events...it does not cave til 24-30 out and even then it sometimes is too east. In this case the mesos are not quite as far west as they were in many cases I remember so maybe it won't be quite as wrong but it seems at this stage it'll be wrong on its idea vs the Euro/CMC/RGEM overall
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It used to have a consistent east bias with very strong coastal lows or lows sub 985 or so and tended to be very good with anything weaker but it had an upgrade in 2014 and it has been erratic since but still will tend to have a bit of a progressive bias with stronger systems
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Yeah if you extrapolate it it does seem that it moved west
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The UKMET appears to be fairly far west on that one site that comes out early but its hard to tell
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This may be the usual adjustment followed by the slide back east, if we adjust for 2-3 more model cycles though we would be in decent position for a solid event even with a late tick back to the east
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The area doesn’t need a huge change to get a decent snow event unlike this last storm where we were largely out of it by this point. New York City with this event at this range is about where Raleigh or Salisbury was with the last storm. They were shown to get a big event 5-6 out then they were west or fringed. Ultimately they never got the shift they needed but they were in it til 48 hours out
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I'll take a wild guess and say the 00Z NAM is west of 18z but considering it was in Portugal at 18Z that is not a tough guess to get right.
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Probably not because winds will be really strong. Especially nearer the coast
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This is correct...the one thing the Euro/EPS has had correct for the last 2 days is the mass extending snow shield west of the low...there are tiny hints the last few Op runs of the GFS/CMC of that but especially so on some of their ensemble members that they are starting to pick that up...but if the low track is so far east it won't really matter to anyone
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One thing of note is that more members of the GEPS/GEFS at least are picking up on the fact a huge ass area of snow will exist in long duration behind the low track....given what is going on at the mid/upper levels that has been one thing its evident the Euro/EPS has been correct on for 2 days