michsnowfreak

Its already been dry here in August. But honestly I dont care. As long as it gets more active in winter im fine. Definitely want to avoid any late heat. I am amazed how the color is picking up so early. The last week, Detroit has now had a low of 58, 55, 50, 50, 53, 50 with most suburbs in the 40s multiple times including several around 40 in the traditional cold spots. The forecast low tonight is 48 Detroit with 40s everywhere else, then some 50s, and the more 40s later in the week. With low humidity, sunny days, and 2+ consecutive weeks of cooler than normal nights, the color will continue to expand.

I remember. Don't think we see that kind of heat later in September this year though.

I also have a feeling the trees are really going to start taking off with these cool nights. Its not at all uncommon to see some stressed color by now, but I've been noticing many trees starting to get some color the last few days.

We had a 100% chance of rain today and I didnt see a drop

After a warm, humid summer where the persistant warm, humid nights, not extreme hot days, were what made their mark....We are now in a stretch of a what will be about 10 days straight of unseasonably cool nights, several of them flirting in record low territory, so to say that summers back is broken is an understatement. The trees are starting to get some color as well.

We had a warm, humid summer here, and while once again, extreme temps were not a thing (14 days of 90F+, which is only 1 day more than normal, and only 4 of these days were 93+) it was the warm humid nights that made their mark. Yet now, we are in a stretch of a what will be about 10 days straight of unseasonably cool nights, several of them flirting in record low territory, so to say that summers back is broken is an understatement. The trees are starting to get some color as well.

I literally say the same thing every time we are in a La Nina or La Nina type state. Historically December has been the prize month of winter in a La Nina, but in recent years we have had so much trouble getting a colder than normal December (yet we have had no trouble getting a cold Nov, Jan, or Feb). Even last year, a colder than normal winter, but by far the mildest month was December. Im very interested to see if we get some real fun in December this year. Of course, it could cost us some fun in Feb, but we are definitely due.

Absolutely, anything can be skewed whichever way someone wants it these days. Also, multiple record lows were set the last few days, some very old records. Springfield, IL set a record low of 44F, breaking a 140-year record by 4F. Flint missed by 1F, Detroit missed by 3F, but Toledo set a record low this morning of 48F. We just arent having someone post an itemized list as they do when theres any kind of record highs.

It was 29F in Rosscommon today. An incredible 38F at the aforementioned cold spot Ann Arbor (which is ARB, not to be confused with U of M). DTW's 50 missed the record by 3F, FNT's 43F missed the record by 1F.

The low at DTW was 50F this morning, though it hovered there for 3 hours, missing the record by 3F. The usual SE MI cold spots included Ann Arbor at 40F, and White Lake at 42F. Impressive for August! The coldest in northern lower MI was 37F. Tonights forecast low for Detroit is 49F, the record is 47F.

Below normal temps to end August sometimes help kick off that earliest wave of Fall color (beyond the stressed trees already showing some color). I am SOO ready.

Are you thinking a more front loaded winter? Or rather....a winter where December is one of the bigger hitters rather than Jan/Feb?

Finally got rain, but just 0.59". I have been screwed on almost everything event this summer. Better now than winter.

Wow on Milwaukee. Stay safe! Detroit has seen no rain whatsoever in August

The Feb 2018 warm spell that allowed 80° weather in NY was extra crazy because it occurred in an otherwise wall to wall good winter in many places. We did hit 65° here, leading to a rapid melting of a deep snowpack, but outside of the last third of Feb, the period of Nov 2017 to Apr 2018 was pretty much wall to wall cold.

Chicago averages more 90s than us, but the last 3 years the difference has been far greater than normal

I made a post in the other thread. Over the last 3 years, Detroit has seen a total of 26 days of 90+ while Chicago has seen 67. This year, Detroit has seen 10 to Chicago's 23.

Chicago does average more 90F+ days than Detroit (avg 17 to 13). But the last several years have been huge differences. The last 3 years, ORD has had 67 days of 90F+ while DTW only 26! Here are the last 20 years. YR - DTW – ORD 2025- 10 – 23 2024- 14 – 23 2023- 2 – 21 2022- 15 – 16 2021- 13 – 22 2020- 17 – 31 2019- 10 – 14 2018- 26 – 26 2017- 7 – 16 2016- 23 – 16 2015- 10 – 10 2014- 4 – 3 2013- 7 – 13 2012- 30 – 46 2011- 23 – 22 2010- 17 – 21 2009- 4 – 4 2008- 7 – 6 2007- 14 – 19 2006- 11 – 15

I heard it was the coldest summer in parts of coastal California in over 50 years. Didn't look up any numbers tho

Many la ninas have historically had great Decembers (at least here). But results are then mixed as to whether or not it carried thru to the rest of winter.

Where do you guys see euro monthly? I only see seasonal.

I think thats a nice clipper look.

The Dec/Jan cold snap set an interesting record at Detroit for cold longevity. Dec 26, 2017 thru Jan 6, 2018 was the longest stretch on record (12 days) where Detroit did not exceed 19F.

Went to the park today to enjoy some outdoor time since it was so nice. Took this pic from the exact same spot as a pic last Oct. Its coming soon!

It has remained remarkably consistent for months now with its winter outlook.