michsnowfreak

Yup. It doesn't mean its not hot out (a shame we have to preface that everytime so certain people dont freak), its just recognizing climo. Since records began in 1874, Detroit has hit 100+ the following years: 1878 1887 1911 1918 1930 1931 1933 1934 1936 1939 1941 1946 1952 1953 1955 1977 1988 1995 2011 2012 Thats it. It was an incredible stretch from 1930-1955, when 11 of the 26 years hit 100+. Only 9 years of the remaining 127 years did so.

As I said, idk what happened at PIT but July 1977 had some brutal heat. However summers with brutal heat, regardless of the winter, are not uncommon in this area with our extreme seasons. But I do think spring 1977 gets lost in the shuffle. That was a very impressive and fast change from one of the coldest winters on record to one of the warmest springs.

Detroit has now seen a temp range in 2026 from -10° to 97°. The DTX NWS range is -21° to 95°.

Clearly the east got the brunt of it. Im not as familiar with their summer climo so I really didnt follow where this would rank. Kind of surprised that none of their subs even have a thread for it.

Thats crazy how it skipped over Pittsburgh. Detroit hit 102 and NYC 104. The month had 14 days 90+ at DTW & 11 days at NYC

Been a long time since I've seen a storm like that. Temp instantly dropped 20°, I estimate winds at 70 mph, and lots of trees down. Sticks/leaves/debris everywhere.

Once again....who said its not hot?

They were a mixed bag but leaned on the cool side. 1972 was by far the coldest summer of the lot. 1987 was a hot one, and in 1977 a blistering heatwave engulfed much of the country in July.

Actually its more like 3-5° each day here. And again, who said its NOT hot as shit out? That is/was a given. Imagine a snowstorm calling for 8-10" and you get 4-6" and say "it still snowed". That would never fly here lol

Oh by the way. The 4-day stretch at Detroit ties with 4 other years for 27th hottest on record max temp wise (i recall reading on here previously that we decided to ditch low temps because they run colder now)

Lmao I ALMOST posted on my post "I know this will freak out the warmistas and I will probably be accused of saying there wasnt a heatwave", but i decided against it. I should have known it wouldn't have taken long. Please tell me how stating a FACT that high temperatures and heat indexes fell consistently short of what was hyped up, forecast, and discussed by local news outlets & the nws for a week straight before the heatwave hit is downplaying the event? I even began by saying its a solid uncomfortable heatwave. You would NEVER start a post with "this is a decent cold snap", it would be "this transient cool down was a failure because the forecast low of -8 was a balmy -7"

Most expansive heatwave in history? Lmao. I guess the 1930s-50s just removed themselves from history. Not to mention 1988, 1995, 2012, etc

Yeah. You can easily see the potential if a similar pattern shapes up. Southern MI had an early snowstorm (Nov 21) then the shit december....multiple winter storms Jan-early Mar then a winter encore in early April. Once we passed Christmas, any warm spike was quickly followed by a winter storm. The November snowstorm was very scenic

It was a solid (not to mention gross & uncomfortable) heatwave for sure but definitely fell short of hype locally. Which i knew would happen and called it last week in a local weather chat im on. One of the local mets said he sees "nothing" that would indicate we fall short of 100 on back to back days (Wed/Thu). They also hyped 110+ heat indexes. The reality? DTW highs were 94, 97, 96 (likely low 90s today). Max heat index was on July 1st at 105. Max dewpoint was 76, also on the 1st. No record highs were set but the record high min of 76 was tied on the 2nd.

Honestly, 2015-16 was fine outside of December imo

No, its the Wyandotte Museum. But I love Greenfield Village!

A sweltering summer night seemed like a good time for a comparison pic. July 1/January 25

Wow. Max heat index at DTW was 104.

97 at DTW today. No record, but the hottest temp since 2019.

I know my own climate very well, but I have also learned a decent amount about the east/midatlantic after being on weather boards for 2+ decades. Warm/cold/etc are always very relative, subjective terms. It absolutely will snow here in November & December. My hunch is for above avg snow in Nov & below avg in Dec, but thats just my hunch (based on strong Nino history & an odd frequency of this occurring in even non-Nino years recently). Id lean on an avg to cold November and a mild December, but even if its warm both months, the transition to winter in the Great Lakes from Oct to Nov is a sharp one, and is very apparent even in the warmest years. Meanwhile, on the east coast/midatlantic, early season snow is never a strong bet, even in a cold pattern. So in a more hostile strong Nino pattern, bad odds just got worse. So while its not impossible, dont count on much pre-Christmas snow. January-February is when the Great Lakes region is often thrust into deep winter, so you have options ranging from that to a warmer, less favorable outcome which would actually yield a good chance for dynamic, powerful wet snowstorms. This is the time of year when literally everything has to go wrong to not see much winter. Meanwhile in the east, Jan/Feb is when climo hits its sweetspot. Pair this with a time when the overall pattern becomes more wintry for much of the nation following the assumed mild December, and the tendancy/STJ in strong Ninos for strong storms, and this is when you can be on high alert for possible huge storms.

Low at DTW 78 this morning. The hot, humid final day of June took the monthly departure from -0.1F to 0.4F at DTW. June was a very average month in the southern Great Lakes in the mean, with most locations finishing between -0.5F & +0.5F, however the last day added around a half degree departure for most.

Speaking of cansips. Its July 1st update maintains a cold look centered in the Great Lakes despite the nino strength. January is the coldest month relative to average. It warmed some in December.

The irony

Actually. Strong ninos often have cool months in the Fall. And we've already had several cool months this year, so no, i dont think every month the rest of the year will be warmer than avg.

Hes an old friend under a new name, if you know what i mean. For not posting much, its always the same thing every time.