michsnowfreak

We didnt get a huge storm but its been arctic cold, so the past 2 weeks weve seen a 6" & a 5" storm and multiple smaller ones, theres huge snowbanks everywhere. That really adds to the look IMO.

Its always interesting when several models/ensembles hint at roughly the same idea 2 weeks out, so its worth watching. But the key words...2 weeks out lol. In the mean time, just enjoying deep winter and hoping a clipper or two pops up.

I was telling a story about the King winter of 2013-14 to someone, and it reminded me that it was the only time in my life i was ever scared of snow, albeit briefly. It was mid-late Feb and the snow depth approached 2 feet with huge drifts. I was in a hilly, drift-prone area not far from DTW, so of course, I wanted to play around and see how high some of the drifts are. When walking in deep snow, its best to KNOW your area, which I did not. So there I am, with my 40" snow stick getting a kick out of sticking it all the way in without hitting bottom (first time id ever done that), then I fell into chest deep snow. Those drifts are hardpacked. I couldnt move my arms to get out. After brief panic i started wiggling fingers to loosen the snow and as it loosened, i was eventually able to tunnel enough snow to get out of the drift. Absolutely wild. I walk in extremely deep snow every year up north, but never had an experience of falling into packed powder to my chest. There will be harsh winters (this has happily turned into one), but there will never be another 2013-14.

The irony, youre right back to knocking double digit storms & exaggeration bs. 2013-14 was a months-long big dog. DTW had two 10"-11" snowstorms in 1 week (Dec 31/Jan 1 & Jan 5/6) and had double digit snow depth for months. The Jan 5/6 storm had 12-18" in a band NW of Detroit. A 2 foot snowpack with 4-5' drifts during Feb was the peak of that insane winter. And no, Feb 1/2, 2015 DID NOT take 30+ hours to get to 17". A huge majority of it fell between 11am-8pm Feb 1st. If that is not a big dog, I dont EVER want to hear reference to another area getting a snowstorm of 17" or less as being a big dog. And lastly, no, GHDII was our moment. GHD1, ahhh yes the early days of the laughable kuchera maps. Storm was a bust but not crazy. NWS Forecast was 10-15" and the area saw 8-12" (now THAT one took like 30 hours). Kuchi maps of course were higher.

Some hit and miss squalls today dropped 0.4" and drifted some of the snowcover around. 13 of the past 14 days saw measurable snowfall. The lone holdout was Jan 20 with just a T. Deep winter continues.

Feb 1, 2015 essentially felt like a 20" storm at DTW. 3" on the ground to start, then nearly 17" more in 24 hrs.

PHN is Port Huron. Which is in SE MI, northeast of Detroit. He is not faulted for wanting a 20" storm. He is faulted for his repeated schtick of coming to the board during winter only, a time he does not reside in MI, mostly to stir his repetitious pot that everyone gets 20" storms but here, say weather/climate stats proving that wrong are bs, etc. Me, someone who loves snow and lives in a place where it snows all the time but said snow doesn't come 20" in 1 day, being his main target. And really, the era of '65-'85 did have one massive storm here (Dec 1, 1974, 19.3") but the era of 1999-2015 had far more double digit storms in SE MI than 1965-85.

Yeah the drumbeat goes on. Frigid week ahead.

Lmao you complained about double digit snowstorms all the time back in the 2000s/10s. You did in 2014, even with 2 feet on the ground because with all the storms we had no individual fall was over 12". The very next year, when Detroit got nearly 17" of snow on Feb 1/2, 2015 you found plenty of critique saying it was boring and took 24 hours to achieve (despite hours of visibility below 1/4 mile). Our last double digit storm (Feb 2021) you dont remember (even though you were in FL) so I guess it didnt happen. In fact you ghost this board all year except in winter when youre in FL so you can troll/repeat how no 20" storms are hitting SE MI. Me posting how many 20"+ storms in every first order station in the entire non-lake belt midwest is not "bs", its actual weather data. And how extremely lucky that you've experienced several! Your job just happened to place you in a town the exact day a 20" storm hit. That's lotto lucky. As for the tundra. Theres deep snow in place and mountains of snow everywhere, so i dont mind it in the least. Perfect for winter rec.

Ive noticed the clipper pattern showing up on LR models.

Not to mention, we get plenty of big snowstorms. He is talking 20"+. Which any amount of data you can find will tell you that it is EXTREMELY rare in this region. Dubuque, Moline, Cedar Rapids, Rockford, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Dayton, LaCrosse, Bismark, Peoria, Springfield, St Louis, Madison - not a single 20" storm in their climate record. Detroit has 1, 1886 Flint has 1, 1967 Des Moines has 1, 1942 Chicago has 3, most recent 2011 Columbus has 1, 2008 Lansing has 1, 1967 Toledo has 1, 1900 Cleveland has 1, 1913 Kansas City has 1, 1912 Milwaukee has 1, 1974 Minneapolis has 2, most recent 1991 St Cloud has 3, most recent 1965

Its also ok to live in a state known for winter and to enjoy winter without being lectured from someone who does not reside in winter and does not like winter. And as I get older I use the snowblower more and more. Love shoveling but only when its not too heavy. My piles are no more special than others anymore.

You dont even live here in winter. You essentially hate winter. This storm was a great storm for the central ohio crew but it was short of 20" so if it was here you'd be complaining. I know, because you had many critiques when Detroit had a 16.7" storm in 2015.

34.1" here to date. Though there have been no huge storms here, snowfall has been very frequent. Plow/salt contractors have been on overtime every week since Thanksgiving except for 2 (Christmas week and 2nd week of January). Daily wind chills to -20F, a deep blanket of snow, mountains of powder everywhere, THIS is how the dead of winter should be! It's what the normies call "an old fashioned winter". 2025-26 will be the 2nd colder than avg winter in a row and is on pace to be the snowiest since 2017-18.

Thats just crazy. Lol and Detroit sits on a salt mine. Plow/Salt contractors in SE MI have been on overtime every week since Thanksgiving with exception of 2 weeks (Christmas week and 2nd week of January).

Went sledding/snow playing with my nephew. He was already out all day with friends then wanted to go sledding. Then I take him home and he wants to make an igloo out of the snowbank in the driveway. The kid could live in snow day and night. I have found @beavis1729 match!

Detroit must take the case for salting lol. I mean theres been multiple plows too, but i heard some contractors are low on salt already.

So far this season i have had 34.1" which is about 10" above avg to date. Nov- 5.7" Dec- 11.6" Jan- 16.8"

It was epic in much of MI but not SE MI. Detroit literally saw twice as much snow Feb 1/2, 2015 than they did Jan 26, 1978. 1974 was way more epic. 1978 was a great storm but way overblown here.

Day after the storm is always fun, but especially when its full of arctic air. Deep winter.

This is why I don't like quoting stats i verify them. The 12.4 was daytons CALENDAR day record. They had 1 storm of 18+ (18.3 in 1910)

Its honestly unreal. Its one thing to want something. I want a million dollars, I want to lose weight, etc. But its another to have an expectation that's totally against to your climate. Its almost beyond comprehension to me that a "big dog" is a winter event, and some would supposedly be fine going years without winter knowing that one year soon theyre bound to get that big dog. We dont/can't that in Michigan. We need winter annually. Its like telling your boss, no thank you i don't want my biweekly paycheck. Ill just wait til next year when we get the big profit sharing bonus.

Exactly. Plus the existing snowpack was already well compacted and drifted over. None of this watching it settle by inches daily as you do with fluffy snow. Theres about 1 inch of water in our 9" powder snowpack. Its a skier or snowboarders dream base.

Boston has bot had 10 but they've had several 20+ since 2000. More than here lol. And "everyone else" doesn't get big dogs outside the east coast. For comparison Daytons 12.4" with this storm was their all time 24 hr ecord. Detroit saw 16.7" on Feb 1/2, 2015. We got plenty of 10-12" storms in the golden era of the 2000s-10s with several areas hitting 14-16" in some storms. Don't be lowering your big dog standards just because OH/IN got more this time lol. We don't have the ocean. Thats not gonna change. And why sorry he had to move? Maybe he likes more frequent snowfall? Or even more so maybe he likes where he lives and didnt base on weather. From one 4 seasons climate to another is really not a huge move. Its these people that move to AZ to get burned alive that make me scratch my head. It wasnt so much dry air with this storm, it was strictly ratios. A red flag should've been how much of the mid Atlantic and east coast turned to sleet with temps in the teens. Just because its cold doesn't mean 20-1 ratios. Im not sticking up for the models as they've been awful recently, but it was actually a well forecast storm qpf wise and placement wise. Remember, Kutchera is not a model forecast, its an algorithm incorporated into the models to estimate snowfall and it has disappointment millions of weenie hearts over the years.

Wait what did I miss? You aren't in MI anymore?