michsnowfreak

I remember that too! I remember they were talking about it all week.

February is where it is at. Our average since 2000 has been 14.7" and since 2010 has been 18.0". Despite the pattern of the past few years there is no question that increasing snowfall in January and February, especially February, is what has been responsible for the 2010s being our snowiest decade on record. Lean snow years from the 1930s-60s really brought the avg down. 2010s vs 20th century Nov- 2.9 vs 2.8 Dec- 8.5 vs 8.6 Jan- 14.3 vs 10.4 Feb- 18.3 vs 9.0 Mar- 5.0 vs 6.7 Apr- 0.9 vs 1.5 ssn- 49.9 vs 39.1 Is Toronto above avg to date?

We had great December's in 16 and 17 But the 2 decembers on each side of it were terrible. This December at least we've had snow here but its not been the best. We are in a very odd pattern lately of early and late season cold and snow, with one of the Winter months being not so wintry. It's frustrating. But also snowlovers in much of the midwest were very spoiled 2007-2015. Thats why they say karma is a bitch. Its very cool to see these out of season snowfalls but id gladly give them up if we could get back on track lol. We had a March storm in 2017 and 2018, and of course March 15 had deep snow. So id say over the past decade Dec has been the least wintry month of DJFM. Going a step farther, and this requires subjective thinking, id say that relative to normal, from NDJFMA December has been the worst. Obviously Dec has been colder and snowier at face value that November and April, im talking relative to normal. If anything the winter seems to be getting longer with a remission at some point during what should be the heart of winter.

I know it has been a frustrating start in Chicago and I like that you looked it both views. There are plenty of examples where there was good Winter after the New Year despite hardly any before the New Year. Today is only the 1st official day of Winter.

Happy first official day of Winter all. May the rest of the season bring us all lots of snow lol

murky and damp out. The snow melted except for a few piles. Gross out on this last day of Autumn.

I have weatherbell and I don't get which version of cfs this is. it changes daily but hasn't looked nearly that warm recently.

Thanks. Hoping the north builds up the pack, its time!

Continued snowing beautifully all day today. I think it's finally ending. Over the last 2 days we have grinded and I mean grinded out 3.1" of snow total. Seaaon at 9.3" to date. Nevertheless it has been a snow globe and it was beautiful and I just love looking at the Christmas decorations in fresh snow.

I just meant a death band sets up anyone outside of it will be jealous.

if a storm of that type happened in this subforum, even a watered down version, you'd have some mighty unhappy posters and some ecstatic ones lol. A death band of 35-40" with a pedestrian foot just a short distance away.

95-96 was terrible for snow. it was by far and away the most screwzone winter I've ever witnessed. the screwzone was Chicago to Detroit corridor. DTW only saw 27.6" of snow despite a cold winter and record snow in the upper Midwest and east coast. Only good think was an unexpected March 20 blizzard (or else we could have had a 20" season). I was only 12 at the time, and we've more than made up for it since then (the joke about the SE MI Snowmagnet)...but if I ever see a repeat i won't be all positivity like everyone thinks I am lol. Sounds good to me going into a new year. I'll take my chances with average temps in a nina!

do you have a list of modoki ninas? I'm unfamiliar with which years. its mid December rogue, its not staying quiet for the entire winter.

I agree. We have sort of lucked out in SE MI with 3 snowfalls so far, and there was a nice snow in a narrow band in Madison this week...but its largely been a crappy start for the midwest. not to say there won't be screwzones, but this quiet will not continue in a nina in the Midwest all winter.

Damn I wish I was in Binghamton. Here light snow has now been falling for 29 hours and counting lol. Just over 2" in total though it is the classic Christmas "mood snow" like they show on every movie ever invented that takes place during Christmas.

picked up 1.5" of sugar snow. Still snowing so may grind out more. Its the kind of snow that literally has the look and consistency of sugar. no fluff factor. Regardless it made for a beautiful evening last night for Holiday nights at Greenfield village. Driving sugar snow plus breathing thru a mask, not a great time to wear glasses

looks like an inch of sugar snow so far...keeps on grinding for a while.

Records didn't exist in Detroit in the 1860s, i wish they did. They 1880s were an interesting decade because there was a unique mix of very severe winters and very warm, snowless ones. The top 5 decades for 6"+ storms (just confirmed) 2010s (19) 1900s (17) 2000s (16) 1890s (15) 1920s & 1970s (14). in terms of total snowfall,ranking decades from snowiest to least snowy.... 2010s 1900s 1920s 1970s 2000s 1980s 1890s 1880s 1910s 1990s 1950s 1930s 1960s 1940s

me too, I love it! I'm working right now, looking at my Christmas tree and watching it snow.

The 1960s where actually pretty cold winters but we were a screw zone for snow. most insane would be Jan 26, 1967, the Chicago blizzard. DTW saw 4" of snow and a ton of ice. Drive a half hour north or west of there and you were over a foot. For 6"+ storms the best decades were 2010s, 2000s, 1970s.

We got 1.7" Nov 22 and 4.3" Nov 30/Dec 1. id say we are probably 0.8 or so so far today

Philly had 0.3" of snow TOTAL last winter and a winter storm warning now lol. that doesn't sound like pissed

As I've mentioned before, it seems to be mother nature is making up for the excess of severe winter weather 2007-2015. There have certainly been good snows and bouts of cold since (hello Jan 2019) but 3 of the past 4 winters have been subpar, even for areas that have done ok the snowfall department. We have a more consistent climate than the east where they can have near snowless winters or huge noreasters, but there are still cycles, ebbs and flows if you will.

What part of the northeast are you from? I'm guessing Boston based on your earlier post? Sorry to hear about the flight. my brother lived downtown Chicago and he's often missing the best snows compared to the suburbs but the Feb 2015 storm he got some crazy pics. A Midwest winter climate will be colder with more days of snowfall but the big storms just won't compare. Just how it is. Funny story...my brother is living in Willimantic CT for a year or so. His girlfriend loves snow. I've already told them that if they get a legit northeast storm im coming to visit. She was just pining for some snow and kept telling me she was so jealous when we had snow to start the month. Then they were anticipating a noreaster and got a rain logged 1 inch of snow. Poor girl has been dying to see some snow. They are now safely back in MI for the holidays...and CT will see its biggest storm in 5 years lol. At least she gets some snow today.

no way will this eclipse Dec 1st here.