michsnowfreak

I know everyone already knows this, but TCC and twitter/x handler TheGlobalWarmer are the same person, so in addition to always quoting/replying to his own posts, TCC is now embedding his own TGW tweets. Detroit got a special shout out because I corrected the BS of a normal winter with transient cool shots by posting the actual mean temp maps showing it was a cold winter in the east. This year has been unusual in many areas due to the large diurnal swings. This is why TCC has suddenly abandoned actual avg/mean temps for max temps only. Due to the very warm Mar/Apr, the year is still running above avg to date, despite the fact that Mar/Apr are the only warmer than avg months since October. Detroits avg max temp year to date of 50.2F ranks 19th warmest....but the avg min temp of 31.1F is tied with 6 other years for 59th warmest. Thus, the actual mean temp is 30th warmest to date, tied with 3 other years. It stuck in the craw of the heatmisers that it was an unexpectedly cold winter in the Lakes/east, so theres plenty of excess energy to burn after a warm spring. With the record warmth out west, it was seen as criminal that people in the east were discussing the cold winter where they lived rather than the warm west where they didnt live. And again, no one was acting like this was some record cold winter...it was just a consistently cold, white winter, esp from MI eastward, despite the fact that some tried to paint it as normal. Jan 15-Feb 9th was the 3rd coldest on record at Detroit. Extend that out 4 days to a full month-period (intra month, a stat we have seen posted here many, MANY times wrt warmth), it was the 11th coldest 30-day period on record for Detroit Jan 11-Feb 9th. Quite a transient cool shot! Dec-Jan combined ranked 36th coldest out of 153 years, although the actual avg min temp during this timeframe ranked 26th coldest out of 153 years. The entire winter 2025-26, with a mild 2nd half of Feb, ranked 44th coldest out of 153 years, but the avg min temp for DJF ranked 31st coldest out of 153 years.

May finished as the 5th colder than avg month of the past 7. However, due to the extreme nature of the Mar/Apr warmth, the year-to-date is still running warmer than avg. Nov: -0.4 Dec: -3.6 Jan: -5.2 Feb: -0.2 Mar: +4.9 Apr: +4.2 May: -1.6

Ive noticed that too...and im certainly NOT one of them lol. I love cold. But it goes without saying that "cold" and "mild" are extremely subjective terms. Cold in Detroit is different than cold in NYC, to say nothing of the difference between NYC and where you live, and so on. A mild winter here will still be cold enough to snow much of the time. This is why as always storm track/pattern is more important than just temps. I hear the east coast guys talk of their worst winters where they can count on on one hand the number of times it snowed. Its a lock that its going to snow here dozens of times...the key is will there be worthwhile storms? Will it be abnormally dry? And so on.

Cfs will change only a thousand more times before November.

Not to mention more selective cherry picking. He always selects whatever variable and time frame is the warmest. There's been an unusually high (especially for recent decades) diurnal range this year. So the mins are much lower in ranking than maxes. As you said, broken record. The usuals didnt peep a word about the cold winter but once the unusually warm march/April hit they returned in full force. I mean how many ways can you say it? March/April were very warm and the rest of the time since November was not. Here is the WINTER AVG TEMP rankings this past winter. No selected variables, no selected time frames, just the average rankings for the mean winter temp. Warm west/cold east. Imagine that.

Not sure about the NE but here my early gut call is of the 3 DJF months to expect one good winter month, one terrible (ie warm, little snow) winter month and the third is a wild card. I also expect early and late season snow.

Wow guess it was all over the region haha. Highs/lows in SE MI: DTW official- 81/48 Detroit City- 83/47 Flint- 81/41 Monroe- 81/42 But the winner... Ann Arbor- 80/38 Unofficially here was 80/45.

Lmao. Once again. Over their heads. No one argued that the -2.6° in chicago in Jan 2025 was record cold. It was brought up because maxim said it would be a WARM month days before the months began. Jan 2026 had impressive cold. It was -5.2° at Detroit and both December and January were solidly colder than avg for even the coldest 30 year normals in the period of record. Jan was -4.4 compared to the entire POR and Dec -2.1 to the entire POR. But thats "seasonal" and "normal". It was such a cold winter in the east that the trolls either disappeared or completely fixated on the west. Thats when you know it WAS cold. Jan 15-Feb 9 was 3rd coldest on record for Detroit (I usually dont post intra month data sets like that but hey, they do all the time when it's warm!). And thats already the coldest time of the year. The warmth of march/April was discussed but apparently not enough for the liking of some which is what started a tantrum because its not discussed enough.

I will be spending 10 days in June with a much colder view...going to Alaska June 7-17! Bucket list trip.

Diurnal range today is going to be off the charts here.

I look at all kinds of records, always have since Ive followed weather. My preference for cold doesnt stop my documentation of all weather (ive kept track of daily weather imby for 30 years now!). If you dont document every single weather event, anomaly, etc than you dont have a climate base to follow. But a few of those one-sided stat machines for warmth only pop in to stir the embers every now and then. Actually, I overlooked this during winter, but I just now realized Jan 15 - Feb 9th, the climatologically coldest time of the year, was 3rd coldest on record at Detroit this year. 3rd coldest of 153. I call that impressive, they call that "the west was warm".

I used to fertilize regularly but no longer do. Just a little preen every now and then. Let nature be nature.

Its adorable when the warm trolls go on their rants and then really get set off like a spoiled child and start with the "denial" garbage lmao. Like you said, everything right over his head. He said warm january and they finished -2.6° so now its "thats not even 50th coldest". Thats how they operate. Disappears for a whole year, only to bring up that i said its early but I dont see April being a torch (2+ months out). January finished -5.2° here, so the month simply didnt exist here. It was warm in the west, so people in the frozen Great Lakes region should have been shoveling snow and scraping windshields with absolute fear because it was warm in Phoenix. But then April finished +4.2°, so we can shift focus away from the west finally. Look at his post history and how welcome he is in his own subforum. Oh and it was an "average" winter in the east. . BTW, Im not usually the one looking at inter-month rankings like his buddy does, but I just looked and realized Jan 15-Feb 9th was the 3rd coldest on record at Detroit this year. Nearly a full month of the climatologically coldest time of the year and it was the 3rd coldest on record. #Normal. It will be interesting to see if el nino produces cold pockets in the south/west, will look forward to the daily play by play for a region this forum rarely discussed until 2026.

Like I said. They can't even acknowledge the cold winter in this actual region, so we hear about how warm it was in the West and how the regular actual weather posters dont acknowledge warm months enough . Cold winter in the Great Lakes, but its warm in the west, thats what people in the great lakes should care about! Cool May in the Lakes? Umm who cares it was 98 in philadelphia, thats what people in the lakes should care about! (Btw welcome back to Philadelphia! They didnt exist this past winter, but an unusual May heatwave brought them resoundlingly back to existence). Some of us actually are still weather enthusiasts and thats not understandable to him. Hes partially right about one thing though. Its the same stagnant echo chamber with him and his buddy.

That cansips was from Sept though...pretty far out.

On the contrary....everyone goes into strong/super ninos expecting a less wintry than avg winter. It is the warmista weenies who will lose their minds if the warmest strong nino analog doesnt turn out to be the best analog, and/or if its snowier than expected despite mild temps.

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Yeah, its the usual trolls. Penalty box is a great idea!

Who is "arguing" that? Who said anything even remotely comparing one month to another? It isnt frustration for them , its trolling. All you need to do is look at their post history...what they post about, when they post, and how they name-call and attack. That tells you everything you need to know. BTW, who said April is equivalent to any of the months below avg? Ill wait. I know I mentioned Aprils warm ranking in April. See, I have a preference (cold) but not a bias. I discuss all weather, as do others here. They do not. Its nothing but warm trolling, and then complaining that warmth is not brought up enough, tweeted enough, blah blah. Dec-Jan ranked 36th coldest of 153 years. Not a bad ranking for a winter the usual suspects thought would torch. Tell me, when have they ever even ACKNOWLEDGED a month that was colder than avg?

Looking very dry as May turns to June.

It was a rough winter for the warm troll crowd. Many of them went into hibernation but like other things in nature they woke up with the warmth of spring. This will be the 5th of the past 7 months that most of Michigan saw negative temp departures, so of course youre going to hear nothing but March/April March/April...

Exactly. The mean winter temp departures were very impressive considering it was all Dec/Feb. January was a decent winter month.

Feb 2024 was NOT forecast to be a cold month in the midwest. https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/2024-02/Feb2024_tempoutlook.gif?itok=NFbaJvRE

He would never. Look at his post history, speaks for itself. We used to think he was a former banned troll poster (but hes not) based on many of his posts. Hasnt posted in over a year (absolutely no surprise he was absent this winter). But heres his week out prediction for January 2025 (a month his hometown Chicago finished -2.6F. Detroit was -2.8F).

Wow, I didnt see a torch 2-3 months out after 4 consecutive colder than average months here. Bravo! And I couldnt think of a month I could not care less about for warmth/cold than April. The important months were cold. Speaking of aging like milk, it will be wonderful to bump this "non winter" post. We dont have "non winters" in the Great Lakes. Mild? sure. Below avg snow? Sure. No winter? Not happening. And if you're banking on a strong Nino mild winter, then calling for a warm April is a big no.