michsnowfreak

me too, I love it! I'm working right now, looking at my Christmas tree and watching it snow.

The 1960s where actually pretty cold winters but we were a screw zone for snow. most insane would be Jan 26, 1967, the Chicago blizzard. DTW saw 4" of snow and a ton of ice. Drive a half hour north or west of there and you were over a foot. For 6"+ storms the best decades were 2010s, 2000s, 1970s.

We got 1.7" Nov 22 and 4.3" Nov 30/Dec 1. id say we are probably 0.8 or so so far today

Philly had 0.3" of snow TOTAL last winter and a winter storm warning now lol. that doesn't sound like pissed

As I've mentioned before, it seems to be mother nature is making up for the excess of severe winter weather 2007-2015. There have certainly been good snows and bouts of cold since (hello Jan 2019) but 3 of the past 4 winters have been subpar, even for areas that have done ok the snowfall department. We have a more consistent climate than the east where they can have near snowless winters or huge noreasters, but there are still cycles, ebbs and flows if you will.

What part of the northeast are you from? I'm guessing Boston based on your earlier post? Sorry to hear about the flight. my brother lived downtown Chicago and he's often missing the best snows compared to the suburbs but the Feb 2015 storm he got some crazy pics. A Midwest winter climate will be colder with more days of snowfall but the big storms just won't compare. Just how it is. Funny story...my brother is living in Willimantic CT for a year or so. His girlfriend loves snow. I've already told them that if they get a legit northeast storm im coming to visit. She was just pining for some snow and kept telling me she was so jealous when we had snow to start the month. Then they were anticipating a noreaster and got a rain logged 1 inch of snow. Poor girl has been dying to see some snow. They are now safely back in MI for the holidays...and CT will see its biggest storm in 5 years lol. At least she gets some snow today.

no way will this eclipse Dec 1st here.

That was one heck of a snowstorm apparently. The 1960s were not a good decade for big snowstorms locally, we missed most of the good ones. The blizzard of 1965 was by far the biggest storm of the decade, dropping 10-14" of snow (11" officially) and lots of drifting.

steady light snow is making a perfect setting for an outdoor Christmas event i have tonight.

Some of the cfs runs for January have had some insane cold. It's almost laughable. And that model tends to have a warm bias. It will be very interesting to see what transpires but id say the signal for cold is there.

Boston is wayyy better than NYC. A big dog is always better than anything else, there's no denying that. the very paltry snow amounts in between is why the east coast for a winter lover would suck from NYC south. Thats my take. Bostons run from late Jan to late Feb 2015 was unlike anything, even in a snowbelt. even that far north on the coast isn't all fun though...theyve also had 4 winters the last 20 years with 17" or less total snowfall. The past 2 winters COMBINED in Boston come out to an inch less than the yearly average, thats why you have New England meltdowns. every weenie regardless the climate is very "what have you done for me lately". This is some impressive stuff right here... Avg snowfall Detroit 1900-1999: 39.1" 2000-2020: 47.1" Chicago 1900-1999: 36.6" 2000-2020: 39.9" New York City 1900-1999: 26.3" 2000-2020: 31.6" Boston 1900-1999: 41.0" 2000-2020: 47.9"

Same winter as my big dog (17" Feb 1/2, 2015). A record amt of 6-12" storms the past decade, so no complaints...but exceeding a foot in a single storm is exciting stuff as its not common.

the Mets acting like the models. fwiw cfs ensembles are run daily and can have insane run to run changes.

I am just seeing this picture now. That's amazing. December 2001? Of course big dogs are the best, but if you have to choose between a steady diet of small and medium dogs every Winter versus a big dog every several years with potentially very little snow in between, consistency wins for me. My biggest dog is my favorite storm even though it was not the most ferocious or blizzardy of storms I've experienced. Your climate is great because you get the big storms from the Lake and sometimes the ocean, but you also get all the small and medium sized storms we get. Only downfall is your thaw/torch potential cutting down on snowpack. You may even make a C- on beavis scale lol

Just as it grinds my gears when you act as though all we get are 3-6 events, esp when the last decade has been great for 6+ and 10+ events. Maybe the slight increase in avg temperature is just what dr ordered for these to become more commonplace. a few bigger storms and a few less days of snowcover may be our future, who knows. Year round precipitation and snowfall has increased. im doing fine, good health to you as well.

It does seem to all the ensembles have storminess around Christmas. Get ready for model mania.

I frequently talk on Facebook with someone from Long Island, hes a fellow snow weenie. Actually met him on the weather boards many years ago, but I don't think he posts here anymore. Just as we are accustomed to our Great Lakes climate, he is accustomed to the East Coast climate. He would prefer frequent snow over big storms because he's a winter/cold lover. its all about preference. The total snow last Winter was 4.8" and Each time it snowed it turned immediately to rain so while officially in the books New York City went down with 2 days of snow on the ground last Winter they weren't even 2 full days. Boston is much better than New York City but even there is a bit feast/famine, just less extreme. Worcester on into Northern New England is where its at. Just like our lakes snow belts. Speaking of snow belts... It is just crazy to see that there is bare ground in much of the UP still. Obviously snows will be coming but what Im wondering is will it be enough to negate the bad start from a depth perspective. I consider mid February to early March the best time to go up North to see epic snow depths.

NYC hasn't had a measurable snow since Jan 18 and their forum has a thread dedicated to their first trace of snow. Sounds like the ultimate snow weenie lol. They have only had 1 storm of 15"+ since Feb 2011. I see how impatient this board got by a slow start in early December...i just can't see people dealing with that for years at a time just because eventually they will get a big storm. Their average did go up, but so did many other places. Frequency of 6"+ and 10"+ storms went up significantly here as well, so its not all petty 3-6 lol. Since 2011, NYC has had 5 storms of 10"+ and Detroit has had 7 storms of 10"+. Detroit 2011-2020 Feb 1/2, 2011- 10.3 Feb 20/21, 2011- 10.2 Jan 1/2, 2014- 10.8 Jan 5/6, 2014- 11.0 Feb 1/2, 2015- 16.7 Dec 11, 2016- 10.7 Feb 9/10, 2018- 10.3 NYC 2011-2020 Jan 26/27, 2011- 19.0 Feb 9, 2013- 11.4 Jan 21/22, 2014- 11.5 Feb 14, 2014- 12.5 Jan 23/24, 2016- 27.5

Agree.

of course its been a minute since you posted, because you only show up when the northeast gets a big storm, and its been years. I like winter. So yes, harddd pass on an east coast climate south of Boston. Last winter nyc had 2 days with snow on the ground and Philly and DC had 0. lmao. the ultimate snow weenie belongs in a lake snow belt.

Also....Chicago just recently had 4 straight 50"+ seasons from 2007-08 thru 2010-11 (53-60") for the first time in 136 years of record. If beavis wants to have unrealistic standards, at least don't discredit the good that HAS qualified for his winter grading criteria. And what was so bad about winter 2018-19? Chicago got almost 50"and had temps of -30° in January lol.

Its a feast or famine climate there. They are always prone to a whopper when the ingredients are just right (though this isn't going to be a 30" storm), and they haven't had one in several years. The last measurable snow in NYC? January 18th. I've tracked several storms here and had 25 days with measurable snow since Jan 18th lol.

Yes I know! I collect vintage Christmas and decorate my house in lots of vintage Christmas.

I decided to sign up for weatherbell, at least for the Winter. Such a cool website with so many things to play with lol. Having access to so much more has enhanced how ridiculously models change from run to run. But the idea of a much colder January than December seems extremely likely.

From a snow perspective 07-08 was heaven but it was king of roller coaster, so I imagine beavis would be infuriated over wasting sdds despite all that snow. I had 78.2" of snow but only 60 days of 1"+ snowcover. Thats getting a surplus of 35" of snow but only 10 extra snowcover days. I think one of the most anomalous winters the opposite way was 1947-48. Detroit only saw 26.8" of snow the entire season however 89 days with 1"+ snow cover. A snowfall deficit of 14" but a snow cover surplus of nearly 40 days. No major snowstorms however 2 big ice storms helped cement in the snow cover as a lot of the time it was cold and dry.