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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I have seen a few low to mid 20s winters in my lifetime but nothing lower. The Winter that my mom was pregnant with me, 1982-83, DTW finished with 20" on the dot, over half of which fell in Spring. Would have been a historically horrendous Winter had it not been for a few Spring snows. And honestly, though you were joking, I know very well that things with weather even themselves out over time. Does it mean you will have a record snowy Winter next year? Absolutely not. But your average is your average for a reason, so I'm sure better times lie ahead for you. -
March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Have you ever had a sub 20 Winter before? For me it would be a psychological thing lol. Crack 20" anyway you can. I've had a few low-mid twenties winters in my life but Detroit has not seen a sub 20" Winter since 1968-69. -
POLL: 2021-2022 Season Snowfall Total @ ORD
michsnowfreak replied to cyclone77's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
15 of 22 winters since 2000 ..................DTW.....ORD 2000-01 - 39.0" - 39.2" 2001-02 - 33.7" - 31.1" 2002-03 - 60.9" - 28.6" 2003-04 - 24.1" - 24.8" 2004-05 - 63.8" - 39.4" 2005-06 - 36.3" - 26.0" 2006-07 - 30.3" - 35.6" 2007-08 - 71.7" - 60.3" 2008-09 - 65.7" - 52.7" 2009-10 - 43.7" - 54.7" 2010-11 - 69.1" - 57.4" 2011-12 - 26.0" - 19.8" 2012-13 - 47.7" - 30.1" 2013-14 - 94.9" - 82.0" 2014-15 - 47.5" - 50.7" 2015-16 - 35.3" - 31.2" 2016-17 - 37.9" - 26.1" 2017-18 - 61.0" - 36.1" 2018-19 - 31.3" - 49.5" 2019-20 - 43.7" - 34.8" 2020-21 - 44.9" - 48.8" 2021-22 - 43.0" - 32.4" thru 3/30 -
Wow quite a storm!
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POLL: 2021-2022 Season Snowfall Total @ ORD
michsnowfreak replied to cyclone77's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Thru 3/30: ORD 32.4" DTW 43.0" ORD will need one Helluva April storm to pull that off lol. Question for Chicago peeps, I guess mainly Alek or mimillman. Any of you guys who live along the lakeshore downtown keep records? Just curious if downtown may have actually beaten ORD this year. Obviously usually ORD wins but my brother who lives there noted a few times he got more than ord. Usually he gets less. -
It appears that, at least based on long term models, April will end up on the cooler than average side. Though I'm sure with the usual ups and downs. After a cold and often wintry April 2018, an interesting thing of note is that each of the past 3 april's have had advisory level snowfalls late in the month in our sub. Apr 27/28, 2019- 3-5" of snow falls in Chicago's far NW burbs Apr 17/18, 2020- 3-6" of snow falls from Detroit to Toledo Apr 20/21, 2021- 3-6" of snow falls from Detroit to Toledo Apr 2022...hold my beer????
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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Sleet and freezing rain overnight. Picked up 0.1" of sleet. Adds another tenth to the snow season tally, 43.2" on the season. Temps rising quickly now. -
March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
The low of 18° at DTW this morning was the latest teens since Apr 5, 1995. -
There were definitely an unusual number of Winter events in the South this Winter, however I still don't know where you're getting 1' let alone 2 or 3' events. This season to date map is certainly not gospel but it's a good representation of overall snowfall.
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There was a horrific 50-car crash in Pennsylvania today from a snow squall. We had a similar 50+ car pileup in February but luckily nobody died. Unfortunately 3 died in Pennsylvania today. These are happening every Winter anymore. I do not understand why people drive full speed when there's a white out.
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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Definitely impressive. Yesterday was a mix of clouds and sun and we topped out at 32. But today was sunny all day after some early snow and we only topped out at 30. Areas outside the metro stayed in the 20s both days despite sun. -
March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
DTW hovered at 20 for much of the night but it clouded up and another unexpected snow shower moved through (0.1"), so Temp didn't bottom out. Season snow 42.9" DTW, 43.1" mby. Looks like the second day in a row where we won't break freezing. -
I'd also like to know lol. For the record the 13.7" officially at Dayton is the least snowy since 2016-17 when 8.5" fell. They also had 9.5" in 2011-12 and 6.2" in 2001-02. If no more snow falls this season, it will be the 30th least snowy Winter on record for Dayton, since 1892. Average snowfall for DAY is around 24". There have been 11 winters since records started in the 1890s with single digit inch season totals. The snowiest on record is 62.7" in 1977-78, and the least snowy is 3.2" in 1918-19.
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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Received a powdery dusting of 0.2" this morning. Mostly sublimated but a cold January-like day. Season snowfall at 43.0". -
March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Picked up 0.5" of wet snow this morning. Has all melted. 42.8" on the season. -
I imagine there end up being some extreme differences in remaining snowcover between areas that get full sun and areas that receive full shade
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Still kind of quite impressive. Detroit is at 42.2", so again a quite average Winter here.
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Technically this season may not be over for any of us but at this point it's just the flash in the pan snows that come and go quickly.
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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
0.68" of rain here last night through today. Washed away the salt lol. -
Definitely a frustrating Winter for your area. Near misses bother me more than model failures. If I was in your shoes I'd probably give the Winter a D or D-. But we all grade differently lol.
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You are around 17"? What is your average?
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I give the Winter B-. As hoosier said, things to like and things to hate. Final numbers (pending April of course) would indicate that this Winter will finish right around average in terms of both total snowfall and days with snow on the ground. Of course it came in it's usual form of ups and downs. A snowy November, yet another fabulous February, but an anemic December and March. (In a very localized fashion, SE MI picked up avg snowfall in Dec 2020, but that aside, we are really in this weird trend of snowy November's & February's, and anemic decembers and marches. Then ending the season with a bout of wintry weather in mid or even late April). Two good size storms (9.0" & 6.8"). But what helped this Winter get a B- instead of a C/C+ was the consistent cold after Christmas. Some snow lovers could do without the cold but for me it's invigorating. So to have such persistence of cold weather, to see the thick ice on local lakes and ponds, was quite enjoyable. The dead of Winter in late January saw a few clippers and abnormal cold during what is the coldest time of year.
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March 2022 General Discussion
michsnowfreak replied to SchaumburgStormer's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
I was only referring to MI btw. Not sure about other states but in the northern locations i would assume its the same. In 148 years of record, there has only been 1 April at Detroit without a freeze, and the min temp that April was 33. Areas around here where fruit is grown are in areas that radiate much better than DTW, so by that I assume hard freezes are seen every April. -
I've been reading a book called "memorials of a half century" written by Bella Hubbard in the 1880s. It's a fascinating and detailed look at our area from 1839 to that present day. Gives a ton of detail about the seasons and the weather, always changeable and shifting. That's why I always look at the big picture. So hard to tell the blurry lines sometimes between shifts, trends, and coincidences. Summer seems to be lingering later in September, but unusually early snow storms have been hitting as well. The frequency of mild Decembers in recent years is only matched by the 1930s & 1990's, and the frequency of anamolously snowy Februarys has never been matched since records have been kept.
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Just to confirm, you are referring to the entire season, not just met Winter, correct?