michsnowfreak

Lmao. Trolling to the highest degree. This Winter is absolutely not a new normal.

This. Times a million. I grew up in southeast Michigan so my standards are set on southeast Michigan Winters. You grow up getting interested in the weather when all you know is the weather that you experience. So to place such unrealistic standards on what's acceptable and what's not just seems weird to me. You will never ever be happy. Ill never forget when beavis called the winter of 2013-14 "decent" but had a whole list of complaints about it. I love snow probably more than Beavis. Some winters meet our expectations, some exceed them, and some fall short. Obviously this Winter is falling short. That's when you have to make the most of what you get. I was out multiple times the past several weeks enjoying the Winter wonderland instead of staring at my computer screen showing an impending warmup.

We definitely have more than 3 months of legit snow chances, it's pretty much a good 5 month window from mid November to mid April. But I'll take a huge pass on any Winter rain. I'd rather just be dry than have any rain.

I like cold springs. I'm the opposite of cromartie. I like every season colder than it should be lol. I havent looked at electric Grand Rapids, but here Winter has not been consistently mild. 2022-23: mild 2021-22: avg 2020-21: avg 2019-20: mild 2018-19: avg 2017-18: cold 2016-17: mild 2015-16: mild 2014-15: cold 2013-14: cold. The most consistency lately has been hot summers.

Bruh this is 3 days after the image he posted, on the same model. It's a short lived cold shot but my point is this guys literally picking a random image at 150 hours and saying Winter is over. Although, I looked him up, he's in Boston. With the southeast ridge battling increasing cold in Canada, Boston will likely have less cold than Milwaukee.

It's been forecast to be warm in mid February for weeks now. So this dude just randomly picks a screenshot and acts surprised by it? What's funny is 2 days later it's cold

2018 was the last March at DTW that had 3 or more days with 1"+ on the ground. But again we've had some fickle March's lately. In 2015 we had 13 days in a row, and 2014 we had 17 days in a row.

Many tend to complain profusely during average Winters. Hopefully this winter resets that mindset. I know other areas of the sub havent fared as well, but only 3 of the past 10 winters have featured below average snowfall here.

We just had our most sustained stretch of snow cover in the Detroit area this winter, 17 days. The other "stretch" was 7 days at Christmas. Just not a good year for snow cover. But I cannot believe anyone, beavis no less, would turn down a snowstorm because it'll melt in a few days lol. And by the way it is possible to roll off smaller streaks of snow cover in March, don't give up yet.

I work from home and my office set up is right by a window that looks out to my backyard. After snow had been on the ground for quite a while, opening the curtains this morning and seeing the grass just disgusted me. I literally want to close the curtains.

That is true. I guess I'm just not seeing any sharp difference that would suddenly lead to snow to just shut off. I mean I have no horse in this race so I don't care, but I just have a feeling it's a lot of bad luck and DC is bound to get slammed one of these years soon. It apparently had no problem snowing in years past in what you or i would consider an inferno winter. An average DC Winter in the cold 1970s would be the warmest Winter on record for Detroit or Chicago. Everything's relative.

1) we've had more than 2 weeks of winter in total 2) I never made predictions how long cold would stay. But I do contribute whether I like the weather or not. I don't disappear when it's mild as you do when it's cold or snowy 3) the term "torch" was coined right here on the weatherboards in March 2012. The word has lost its meaning when 37° in January is now called a "torch" 4) march 2012 redux is absolutely not happening

Very few people would move just for the weather, but if you actually did move North you'd be fine. Warming is less pronounced away from the ocean. Here is the average Winter temperature per decade over the last 100 years for DC, Detroit, & NYC. The temperature rise at Detroit, especially if you take out the cold period 1960s-80s, is minimal. Even DC/NYC are on par with where they were in the 1990s. ............DCA...DTW...NYC 1920s- 36.3 - 26.7 - 32.5 1930s- 37.9 - 28.1 - 34.4 1940s- 36.7 - 27.0 - 32.9 1950s- 38.6 - 28.5 - 35.3 1960s- 35.6 - 26.5 - 33.2 1970s- 37.7 - 24.6 - 33.3 1980s- 37.7 - 26.3 - 34.9 1990s- 39.3 - 28.7 - 36.4 2000s- 38.4 - 27.8 - 35.5 2010s- 39.8 - 28.2 - 36.1

Exactly. I always look at the one on weatherbell. The only thing worth looking at on the actual CFS site is to see if today's graphic will be used as troll material for Cromartie.

Detroit's latest average went up about 2" as well. A sub-climo Winter is frustrating to any snow weenie whether they average 5" or 105". But sucky winters are going to happen, especially after snow records toppled like dominoes 2005-2015). Even since things have tamed down since that stretch, the past 5-7 years have been pretty average snow wise. When you look at the big picture, it's definitely not snowing less than it used to in our region. Which is why I wonder if it really is snowing less in the mid Atlantic or if it's just a bad stretch with no big storms (assuming big storms make up majority of their snow).

Saw this parking lot mountain. Should take a while to melt this one haha.

Stumbled upon this thread as a snow weenie lol. Seasonal snowfall in much of the Great Lakes is increasing. It is most pronounced in the snowbelts but even outside of the snow belts... the 2010s were the snowiest decade on record for Detroit dating to the 1870s. 9 of the 16 snowiest winters have occurred since 2003, including the snowiest winter on record (2013-14). Average snowfall so far for the 21st century is 47", compared to just 40" in the 20th century. The average amount of days annually with 1" or more of snow on the ground in the 21st century is 51 compared to 50 in the 20th century. So essentially, we are averaging several more inches of snowfall but staying steady with days with snow on the ground. Im not the stat expert on other Midwest cities, but I can concur that many in the Great Lakes have their snowiest Winter's list peppered with years from the 2000s-2010s. Like seemingly everybody else, this is a down season here. To date DTW is at 19.3". Should this continue through April it would be a below average snow season. But only 3 of the past 10 winters have featured below average snowfall. Since we are a more northern latitude, patterns play just as big if not a bigger role than actual temperature deviations in terms of how much snow falls. I understand the frustration down there, but I wouldn't be writing off snow because of a few down years, especially and you're more "feast-or-famine" climate.

Not true. For whatever reason clippers, while they occur, are just less frequent overall. Locally we had more clippers but less snow overall in the 1990s then we get now. Go figure.

This milder Winter notwithstanding, we've been seeing less clippers for years even in colder winters with many cold fronts. We've not had a problem getting snow from many other ways, but they hey day of clippers seems past.

It's gross out with temperatures in the 50s. The snow, which had covered the ground since Jan 22, has now melted (Except for piles).

I just checked for Detroit. In 142 years of snow records, 29 times the seasons biggest snowstorm has occured in March and 3 times in April. This is 22.5% of the time. It has not happened since 1996, which is by far the longest stretch on record without Mar/Apr storm being king of the season. For it to happen this year so far the number to beat is 6.5" from January 25th.

I don't know what this means but I'm always for a cold March and April lol.

Historically it's actually not uncommon at all to have the seasons biggest snowstorm come in March.

It looks mild the next 2 weeks but I'm sure nothing that will make the trees bud. Then looking like a cold March.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but honestly I'm really feeling a good March for this region. It's been so long. We have not had what I would consider a real snowy March here since 2008. In the 15 years since we've had multiple snowy months of every other month from November through April. This year has definitely bucked certain trends of recent years, so why not go all out. Up to this year, it was getting almost comical that we could predict snow for SE MI... Nov- 250% of average Dec- 20% of average Jan- 80% of average Feb- 250% of average Mar- 20% of average Apr- 200% of average