michsnowfreak

Interesting. I'm a conifer person myself. Palms don't do much for me.

How do you even grow a Palm tree in our northern climate? Meaning what happens to it from November through April? I'll pass

Last November was colder than normal but November 2020 was warmer than normal. Just because it's a triple dip nina doesnt mean it's gonna follow up specific pattern. Regarding 1975-76, December '75 was colder than average here with a lot of snow. November was very warm.

Did I read that right, that January 2014 was your least snowy January??? It was the snowiest January on record at Detroit with 39.1".

The 1st 10 days warmth in November is probably a big reason for the higher probabilities of a mild November to begin with, but yes, if you look at trends in recent years we've had plenty of cold November that have led to mild Decembers. So let's switch it up.

Halloween said "screw you" to one of the driest Octobers on record. I picked up 0.60" of rain which brought my monthly total to 1.04". And a trace of snow. DTW Finished with 1.06" which is just enough to make 20th driest October. Temp finished almost exactly avg.

Sometimes stuff like that just blends in with UHI and things like that. For instance, Detroit has not had a freeze yet with their low temperature being 33ﾟ(just missing it on the 8th), but Flint has had 7 freezes. On the other hand, Detroit has had 14 days in October with the low temperature in the 30s, but the average is 10.

I work remotely but I'm staying right here lol. When do you return?

The 1st 19 days of December was extremely mild and snowless at Detroit, then a switch flipped as you said, and the cold the last third of the month wiped it out. Christmas to New Year's was very cold. Monthly departure at DTW using today's normals -0.5°

Agree 100%. A cold dry Winter with constant snow cover, even with a lack of big storms amd below avg snowfall, would be remembered as a harsh Winter. Then the following Winter you could probably have twice as much snowfall but tons of thaws and people may even comment it was not as harsh as the year before.

I just checked our weather. It was certainly not balmy temperature wise but it was a piss poor start to the snow season until until early January. Just bits of snow beforehand, although there was a bit on Christmas. Despite the terrible start Detroit also logged 0.4" of snow in that Oct 30/31 snowfall. Winter kicked into high gear after Christmas.

Welcome back to the Great Lakes. But screw your rooting lol

Regarding the peak Fall color discussion, I think it goes without saying that each year both peak Fall color and Spring green up vary. As said, it was a beautiful but early peak this year, as we are already past peak and have been for a few days. Still some beautiful color of course but lots of bare. I think I am around hoosiers age, and I do remember some halloween's where most of the trees were bare but I also remember doing lots of trick or treating in fallen leaves. A trend the past several years has been late leaf drop and late spring green up green up, so it will be interesting to see if this early leaf drop affects the timing of blooming next spring.

It's not a bad idea to start November on the mild side, better favor for a flip towards colder the 2nd half.

Was a gorgeous color season here in Southeast Michigan. Also one of the earlier seasons in memory. We are already past peak. Last night's rain brought my monthly total up to just 0.44".

January through April 2001 was 1 of the most boring Winter weather periods I could remember. What helped big time was that the deep snow pack from December did not fully melt until the 2nd week of February, and much of January was spent with a respectable snowpack despite little active weather. And yes, the snow pack made a huge difference in how that Winter was remembered.

Yes lol. My neighbors Halloween decoration.

I'm glad we have these questions to choose from, because it's really difficult to choose. I love all snowstorms, in-and-out of season. But if I HAD to pick.... A snowstorm in winter or something out of season? If it's the latter, early or late? WINTER. Wet snow, dry/fluffy snow, or something in between? DRY, SPARKLY POWDER THAT STILL CAKES GOOD TO TREES Light/calm winds, or windy conditions while it's snowing? LIGHT WINDS Continuous snow, or do lulls not matter as long as amounts end up as expected? CONTINUOUS 12" in 12 hours, or 18" occurring over 36 hours? 18" IN 36 HOURS ( February 1, 2015 is a good example. Took about 25 hours to get our 17" of snow. But at the end of the day, you're walking in 17" of snow not 12"). Bitter temperatures, or just cold enough to stick well during the storm? BITTER COLD Storms on holidays/your birthday/some other meaningful day, or are dates irrelevant? DATE IS IRRELEVANT (but of course Christmas Eve would be orgasmic) If living in a lake effect area, would you rather have a synoptic or lake effect storm of the same amount? SYNOPTIC (only based on the statement "of the same amount")

I do! Just wish it didn't come from BAMweather lol

First trace of snow of the season today. The wet snow left 0.02" liquid, bringing the monthly total to just 0.26".

Will be interested to see if we can shake things up a bit. We have really been stuck in a very persistent odd pattern. Really want a good December. After quite a few great decembers in the 2000s, since 2011, only 2016 and 17 were great. The way the past decade has gone locally, a betting man would go: Oct- mild but flakes before Halloween Nov- chilly and snowy Dec- warm, few fluke snows Jan- pretty avg Feb- snow, snow, snow & more snow Mar- zzzzz and mild Apr- cold, late month snowstorms May- frosty mothers day, hot memorial day

Quite a wicked line of storms moved through MI earlier. Widespread 60-70mph winds, lots of power outages and trees down.

The little heat blobs over big cities on the gfs are also ridiculous. UHI is one thing but putting those little hotspots over the big cities translate to completely overdone numerical data.

Considering the heat in other places, it has been a very pleasant summer in the Great Lakes overall. I'm getting ready for fall though.

On this date in 1934 BOTH Detroit and Chicago set their all time record high temp, which still holds to this day, at 105°