michsnowfreak

Flurries have been falling pretty much constantly the last 2 days, along with a few snow showers. Had a light dusting last night of 0.1" but due to the flow was missing the 1-3 inch accumulations that hit North of Detroit. Like I said in the Buffalo thread, I can't stand missing an inch of snow by a few miles. I'd be on suicide watch for missing a few feet lol

Since you are south of Buffalo, looks like you are in a jackpot. So lucky. Is that where the heaviest was supposed to set up? Not being from the area it's hard to pinpoint exact placement.

It goes with the territory being in a lake belt but it would literally drive me insane. I can't stand when someone 10 miles away gets an inch and I get nothing. Can't imagine missing out on feet.

Larry Cosgrove: Maybe a ten day break from the widespread cold. But a look at the formative ridging around and above the Arctic Circle suggests a return to prolonged, full-latitude cAk (bitter cold) by the end of the first week of December. You would be hard pressed to use the word warm today, except perhaps in southern Florida or coastal California. And truthfully, descriptions of cold weather will be in use through the weekend. But the thumb-projection blocking ridge off of the West Coast will start to break down next Monday and Tuesday, and a period of semizonal flow at 500MB should favor a relatively mild condition from the Mississippi Valley to the West Coast over a November 23 -30 time frame. I hesitate to bring the warmth all the way to the Eastern Seaboard, since a vigorous southern branch storm out of Texas and Oklahoma may out the brakes on moderation by the end of the 6-10 day time frame. That disturbance may not fully stop the warm-up, but I can see two factors that will return the USA and Canada to the icebox as we get past the start of December. A ridge complex now In Scandinavia will begin to retrogress into Greenland (-NAO), linking with a weaker positive 500MB height anomaly over the Arctic Ocean (-AO). That will force a deep storm over the northern Pacific Basin to track eastward along the International Border into the Great Lakes. Remember the rule about cAk vortices: the closer a gyre gets to the lower 48 states, or into the nation, the deeper and more widespread the awful chill will get. If things work out as I expect them too, the period between December 7 and 21 will feature high usage of fuels and other energy sources to keep the people warm in the face of winter. And the moisture-laden southern branch storm track will be heard from as well. Hint hint. Sleep well tonight.

Jealous Harry. Good luck!

I understand concerns about drought. And honestly it's been a long time since we've had a dry year like this, so I guess you could say we were "due" . I always stand by the fact that Winter is a different season. Storm tracks and what not are different. While there's certainly no rhyme or reason, an interesting stat is that 6 of the 7 driest autumns on record were followed by wetter than average winters. But then, of the remaining 13 driest autumns that rounded out the top 20, only 1 additional was a wetter than normal Winter. Fwiw, this autumn will absolutely be on the top 7 driest.

They never updated the map with final totals. But yes. THAT storm was downrivers best in our stretch of great winters. Wyandotte 16.5 DTW 16.7 Brownstown 17.0

What's the discord?

I legit thought about it but I just have too much going on the rest of this week. Also, with the bands always being narrow, how difficult is it to pinpoint where to go? lol Just for future reference.

It was actually tied for 4th latest on record Nov 15, 1946 Nov 15, 1915 Nov 14, 1918 Nov 13, 1916 Nov 13, 2022 The irony of this was: -The low on October 8th rounded to 33, was less than a 1/2 degree from what would have been an earlier than normal first freeze. Avg first freeze Oct 17. -the first snowflakes were earlier than normal on Oct 20 (avg Oct 30) -the first measurable snow was earlier than normal on Nov 13 (avg Nov 17)

So jealous!

I'm sure you did. I'm usually beating my sister in St Clair Shores.

I wonder what Canton got Feb 1, 2015?

Looks like a mild 1st half of December and a cold 2nd half

Oooh good choices. Esp 1/2/99 and 2/1/15

It was basically 94 south. It was 5-1 ratio. A few degrees and I'd have had 2" instead of 1".

There's so many to choose from my honestly I have to go with: January 6, 2014. It's so hard to pick a favorite but I would say this is a very memorable one. It's easy to remember big snowstorms or favorite snowstorms, but the way this day transpired was so memorable. Started with the big 11" snowstorm winding down and a 17" of drifty snowpack on the ground. Temperatures started near 30 as the storm ended and the snow had a heavy water content to it. Then I saw one of the craziest post storm temperature drops ever and the roads literally were frozen over in greased snow. There was no way road crews could remove it so it was like driving on ice rinks surrounded by massive snow banks. The temperature got down to -14 by the sunset, and it was an arctic sunset which had sereal colors in the sky. Winds were howling and snow drifting, wind chills were -55 and I remember the biting cold was something I'd never felt. The inside of people's windows were icing. It's crazy to think now that at that time it was really only just the beginning of the historic Winter.

Snowy day today was a bit unexpected. Banded snow made its way to Southeast Michigan. Accumulations were from DTW south and east. Picked up 1.0" here on 0.21" liquid (first measurable precip of Nov). DTW 0.5". The jackpot was just South of me with around 2". North of Detroit there were no accumulations.

There was a snowstorm Dec 11th. The ground was covered basically from then to early March with 2 brief periods of avdew says bare (late Dec and mid-late feb).

I don't remember what happened on the East Coast I just know we had 70" of snow

I have been hearing the 2010-11 analog thrown around a lot. Which is not a bad thing.

Obviously this was in jest but quite a few great winters had big warm spells in November.

1974, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2017

I love white pines and red pines. I want a red pine but I have no room lol. Had a baby one that died. In my office I love looking out at my neighbors big white pines. I do my part lol. I have: 2 balsam firs 1 white pine 1 Norway spruce 1 Douglas fir 1 blue spruce 1 autumn blaze maple 1 birch 2 crimson maples

November is a tough one because on the one hand, I'm super ready for snow, but on the other hand we've had this trend the past decade or so that snowy november's yield mild December's and vice versa. So based on that I'm OK waiting a little longer