michsnowfreak

We had accumulation here May 10, 2020

No, only for snowcover retention

Ready to be buried in March

With Detroit being at 19.3", even though it's only 5 more inches than Chicago, it really makes a difference in that there's a lot of years that we're at that point or lower by mid February. So it's not even worth looking up those stats for Detroit. However I did double check the Chicago stats just to see what years they were and I actually came up with 24 years not 22, And 3 years in the past 60 (you forgot 1997-98).

On Jan 25, Detroit got 6.5" of snow with a high/low of 33/32 and Toledo got 4.7" of snow with a high/low of 34/33. April powder storm incoming!

In 142 years of record, there have been 35 storms of 6"+ on/after March 1st at Detroit.

0.76" here. We briefly shot up to 55° before falling back down. I have just one snow pile left on the side of the driveway.

February 2021 had the biggest storm and the deepest snow cover of the past few years but your favorite storm would have likely been this Jan 25th. 85F is my comfort limit in summer lol.

The usual caveats apply, but the weeklies bring Winter back from late February lasting right through March

Here's a fun stat, and this will cover beavis' entire life. In the past 25 winters, 13 of the 25 saw double digit snow depth at Chicago. In the previous 25 winters before that, just 7 of the 25 saw double digit depths.

Actually I would use the 3 month window of DJF as our window for getting sustained snowcover. We can get snow way before and way after it but snow cover doesn't sustain itself as well. Recently we had the 9.2" snowstorm on November 11, 2019 and a 4.4" snowfall Apr 20, 2021. So the window is definitely there but obviously DJF is the best. Historically we've had some good March snowstorms but it's been awhile so we are due.

6" was constantly clogging my snow blower January 25th so I had no choice but to half shovel and half blow. I love any and all snow but wet snow is no joke to remove. Have to be careful.

This camera was a bust but I bet you it looks pretty in Dubuque. Probably looks like it looked here January 25th with deep wet snow caking to everything.

I'll be in the UP Feb 16-20 so it's hard to know what to root for lol.

This is classic. You don't want to include the 1880s, 1930s or 1950s because they skew things too warmly. But you wanna start at 1970 because it's realistic. Realistically the absolute coldest winters on record. It's also ironic that 1 unusually mild Winter is the "new normal" according to you but we can throw out whole decades that you don't like. Why don't we just start in 1990. You can watch the curve go up up as you've done since you grew up.

I'm glad I saw your reply because I was literally going to post the exact same thing. Anytime you want to see someone exaggerate the effects of climate change they're absolute number one job is to start a data set in 1970. By starting in the coldest decade on record you set an unrealistically cold baseline. The funny thing is for many in the Midwest and Great Lakes, the 1970s were not just the coldest decade (for winters) on record, they were *by far* the coldest on record.

The 1st step of what? Accepting cromarties constant trolling? I have no problem with our Winter climate here. We usually do fine whether it's a cold Winter or a mild Winter. The hot summers are what get on my nerves, But I will always be here to correct an inaccuracy when I see it.

When you resort to posting a CFS map the game has definitely jumped the shark. But I guess I'll play along.

That's a fascinating observation, especially since the 1990s winters were warmer than either the 2000s or the 2010s winters at Milwaukee 1990s- 26.4° 2000s- 25.6° 2010s- 25.8°

You play the trolling game well, I won't step on your toes for that. But be prepared to always be called out with stats. "Once we reach the cliff edge where most storms change from snow to rain", LMAO that's not even how weather works.

Considering snowfall averages are at all times highs for many areas, they very well may start to go down a little bit.

Lmao. Trolling to the highest degree. This Winter is absolutely not a new normal.

This. Times a million. I grew up in southeast Michigan so my standards are set on southeast Michigan Winters. You grow up getting interested in the weather when all you know is the weather that you experience. So to place such unrealistic standards on what's acceptable and what's not just seems weird to me. You will never ever be happy. Ill never forget when beavis called the winter of 2013-14 "decent" but had a whole list of complaints about it. I love snow probably more than Beavis. Some winters meet our expectations, some exceed them, and some fall short. Obviously this Winter is falling short. That's when you have to make the most of what you get. I was out multiple times the past several weeks enjoying the Winter wonderland instead of staring at my computer screen showing an impending warmup.

We definitely have more than 3 months of legit snow chances, it's pretty much a good 5 month window from mid November to mid April. But I'll take a huge pass on any Winter rain. I'd rather just be dry than have any rain.

I like cold springs. I'm the opposite of cromartie. I like every season colder than it should be lol. I havent looked at electric Grand Rapids, but here Winter has not been consistently mild. 2022-23: mild 2021-22: avg 2020-21: avg 2019-20: mild 2018-19: avg 2017-18: cold 2016-17: mild 2015-16: mild 2014-15: cold 2013-14: cold. The most consistency lately has been hot summers.