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Not just Michigan. It's definitely been a very dry month to date in many locations in the lower Great Lakes. Just looking at the data for Fort Wayne, Cleveland and Buffalo, the last time (and only time) it was drier than this year at all three locations was 1936. Fort Wayne, Indiana (5th driest of 128 years) Cleveland, Ohio (11th driest of 155 years) Buffalo, New York (9th driest of 155 years) New Philadelphia, Ohio (2nd driest of 68 years) Bradford, Pennsylvania (6th driest of 65 years) Also, while the official Akron area site hasn't been quite as dry, the site at Akron Municipal Airport [formerly the official observation site for some time] has only registered 0.21" of rain, which is the driest of 83 years at the site.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
With that said, I did note a stunning reversal from the high heat and humidity with Saranac Lake plunging all the way to 34F this morning. That reading ties the daily record low set in 1914. The all-time record July monthly record low in the Saranac Lake threaded record is 29F, set on July 8, 1919. At the airport site, the all-time monthly record low is 32F, which has been set on more than one day, last on July 28, 2001. The all-time observed record low for the month of July in the state of New York is 25F, which was set at Allegany State Park, in Cattaragus County, on July 8, 1963. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Also, highly questionable to call the Bay Area likely lived through their coldest summer on record. That's true only if your dataset begins in 2000. Prior to that date, these look like fairly typical temperatures. We can see between 1946 & 1982 (a period of 37 years), there were 19 years as cold or colder than this one at the airport. So this year has actually been above the median summer temperature for the mid to late 20th century. This looks more like typical engagement farming, hype-driven nonsense than an observation predicated on historical data. It's literally just summer. San Francisco Airport San Francisco Downtown -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
The trend doesn't lie. If anything, this is more like the typical conditions that would have been present when Mark Twain famously quipped that the coldest winter he had ever experienced was a summer in San Francisco. I am assuming the weird anomaly in the 1980s & 1990s is due to a defective HO-83 hygrothermometer installation? I know they had a lot of problems with those reading high. -
July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
TheClimateChanger replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Wow, in a stunning reversal from the high heat and humidity, Saranac Lake dropped to 34F, tying its daily record low set in 1914. The all-time record July monthly record low in the Saranac Lake threaded record is 29F, set on July 8, 1919. At the airport site, the all-time record low is 32F, which has been set on more than one day, last on July 28, 2001. The all-time observed record low for the month of July in the state of New York is 25F, which was set at Allegany State Park, in Cattaragus County, on July 8, 1963. Edited to remove the reference to Millbrook... I assumed that was a CRN site since xMacis labels it a "WBAN" station and not a "COOP" but it isn't and the temperature data for yesterday appears to be incorrect there. It obviously wasn't 87/32 there yesterday. Lol. -
Upper 50s looking likely tonight. Brief cooldown with heat returning on Wednesday. 8” of Reddit rain nowhere to be found.
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Summer 2025 Medium/Long Range Discussion
TheClimateChanger replied to Chicago Storm's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
Wow, that is insane! Is that an 83F dewpoint? Wtf? That is a wet bulb of 85F or 86F, not this WBGT meme, but bona fide wet bulb. A wet bulb of 95F (35C) is deadly if you are out in it for any extended period of time (even inactive and in the shade), maybe even somewhat cooler than that. Definitely take proper precautions in those conditions. -
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With how much rain there's been of late, I'd say that's a good thing. I hope it continues weakening. Doesn't look like a big rainmaker at this point in any event, although there are still some areas of embedded heavier downpours where I guess a quarter to half inch could fall.
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2025-2026 ENSO
TheClimateChanger replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
See this kind of rhetoric is unnecessary. The NCEI trend for Southeast Lower Michigan is in close agreement with the Ann Arbor and Detroit data, with the exception that the mean temperature is somewhat below those sites (since the district as a whole is somewhat closer), even without any adjustments for discontinuities (location change) or changes in equipment or time of observations. Maybe a case could be made that the January trend is a little inflated, but all of these sites still show warming in January. And for the annual change, it's quite close to NCEI's numbers. It should be noted that there is NO time of observation bias in the Ann Arbor data - unlike most cooperative observers, they have maintained a consistent evening observation time. Of course, there's none in the Detroit data either (consistent midnight-midnight day, per Weather Bureau standards), but there are a couple of important site changes. -
2025-2026 ENSO
TheClimateChanger replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Heck, it aligns almost perfectly with the Detroit threaded record. A touch colder in the early decades, but not surprising considering given the siting/location of the Detroit City record in that era. In recent years, it has shown somewhat less warming, although the broad trends align VERY closely. -
2025-2026 ENSO
TheClimateChanger replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
I don't CHERRY PICK anything. I also am not opposed to using raw data to show broad trends, but it's important to be mindful of the possible biases in the data being presented. How is noting a bias in the data being biased? As far as any problem with the Ann Arbor data, I'm not seeing it. It's right in line with the rest of southern Michigan for data from the late 1880s - 1890s period, which is freely accessible from NCEI. -
I think the biggest surprise for me was how few 70F+ dewpoints there were in 2016 despite that being a scorching summer (hottest on record at Detroit). Only 9 hours at this point at Detroit, and 1 hour at Pittsburgh. Also, somewhat surprising, through yesterday's date, 2016 was 1F cooler than this summer to date at Detroit. It's been 10 years so my memory is getting a little fuzzy, but it must have been an all out torch from here on out that year.
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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
TheClimateChanger replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
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Saw a post from the Southeast Regional Climate Center about 70F dewpoint hours and decided to take a look in the Great Lakes region, and WOW. Record hours of 70F dewpoints pretty much across the board. Nuts.
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July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
TheClimateChanger replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
The dew lovers must really be liking these trends. Eventually may just be wall to wall 70F dewpoints all summer long? -
July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
TheClimateChanger replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Here's how Boston is doing for hourly observations with a dewpoint at or above 70F for the season to date: Currently, in 4th place behind 2024, 2013 and 1984, with 188 hours. I wonder how many 70F dewpoint hours have been lost this summer due to some of the ASOS issues? In 2004 & 1951, there were 0 hours with a dewpoint at or above 70F at his point in the season. -
Here is Pittsburgh for the summer to date. Wow! Second only to 2005, with 253 hours with a dewpoint at or above 70F so far this season. The average is a hair under 50 hours, although the average is clearly pushed up by anomalously humid years like this one, 2005 & 1949. The median is clearly below the arithmetic mean. By contrast, there were no 70F dewpoints in 1960, 1967, 1975, 1971 or 1976 by this point in the summer. More recently, only 1 hour of 70F+ dewpoints had been observed at this point in 2016 (kind of surprising, as that was a fairly hot summer) and only 3 hours in 2023.
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Got this idea from the SERCC X/Twitter account (see post below)
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2025-2026 ENSO
TheClimateChanger replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
For a more evidence-based analysis, NCEI shows January has warmed at a rate of about 2F/century on average in the whole of Southeast Michigan. Why the divergence between your numbers? None of them, except the Ann Arbor data is from a single site. According to your analysis (I didn't independently verify), the Ann Arbor data is exactly flat over the last 100 years. But reviewing the data, the time of observation moves from 5 pm to early morning. There is also a bias from the switch to MMTS, both of which are corrected in the NCEI data. The other sites are all amalgamations of distinct stations. Toledo and Detroit go from rooftop stations in downtown [and, in the case of Toledo, very near Lake Erie, which has a warming influence in the winter] to suburban (DTW) or even downright rural (TOL) airport locations, with proper siting on the ground. -
2025-2026 ENSO
TheClimateChanger replied to 40/70 Benchmark's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
You are something else. I love how you always do what you accuse me and @bluewaveof doing. Let me try to understand this: Co-op data good when it shows less warming, co-op data bad when it shows more warming? Am I doing this right? And you always claim I ignore data I don't like but are CONSTANTLY doing the same: "The data is suspiciously cold." My man, this is data collected by the University of Michigan. At least the older data collection was probably handled by the earth sciences department. Are you saying the University of Michigan doesn't/didn't know how to properly collect temperatures and precipitation? It's funny because if I doubt an old record high temperature that's way out of line with surrounding observations, you accuse me of doing this. Now, you are out here complaining about old temperature records from a top public research university. In the hierarchy of things, I always give the most weight to records collected by the Weather Bureau/NWS at first-order sites, followed by universities, experimental farms and state/national forests and parks, since these are the sites that were manned by meteorologists, agronomists, or park rangers [i.e., people with an earth science background]. You also like to go on about cherrypicking start dates (1960s & 70s). I like to use these as a baseline since the data is more consistent [i.e., fewer station moves and less biases] and more relevant to current trends. But you say its cherrypicking. But now, you throw out the observations from the 1800s because you don't like the trend, and insist on showing the trend from 1920s? How is that not considered cherrypicking? Warming since 1880, significant warming since 1960/1970 - oh, but we must only consider the trend from exactly the 1920s, where there is little warming? -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Additionally, a number of locations were within a degree or two of record high minimum temperatures. If not for the scattered convection, there probably would have been more records. Rain seems more effective at cooling than nighttime in 2025. -
July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat
TheClimateChanger replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Wow, looks like 95F at Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Some of the highest temperatures observed during the recent heat wave in New England: -
Has anyone heard anything about tropical remnants coming next week? I saw a post on Reddit talking about some models showing up to 8 inches of rain from Invest 93L?
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Just knew we were due for a good rain bomb.