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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
A couple locations in far northern New York weren’t far from reaching record lows and record highs on consecutive days. Massena tied a record low of 47F yesterday, but fell 2F short of today’s record high. Plattsburgh missed a record low by 1F yesterday and missed a record high by 1F today. -
Very impressive heat in southeast Lower Michigan today. Selfridge Air National Guard Base reached 98, its highest reading since 2012. 97 at Troy, Pontiac, and Ypsilanti (Willow Run). Flint and Coleman Young Airport topped out at 96. Detroit Metropolitan Wayne International Airport and Ann Arbor Municipal Airport both reached 95. Monroe reached 96, and even the traditional cool spot at Grosse Ile topped out at 95. Wonder what @michsnowfreak observed today? Looking at some backyard thermometers around Wyandotte, it looks like 97-98 was pretty common. Definitely a scorcher!
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Extremely pleasant humidity levels corresponding to comfortable dewpoints in the 50s - a rarity in modern Detroit in mid to late July. A swamp cooler would probably work better than central air in such conditions. Under those atmospheric conditions, the heat index would be lower than the actual air temperature.
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Extreme and dangerous heat across southeast Michigan, with mid and upper 90s common across the area. I'd be willing to bet the heat indices, which are a better measure of heat stress, are every bit as high today as in the 1934 heat wave.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
According to NCEI, it looks 1955 & 1999 had the warmest mean maximum temperatures for New Jersey. They have the statewide average as 89.9F for 1955 & 90.0F for 1999. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
There are also fewer stations today than those earlier periods, at least reported by xMacis. This month counts 36 stations, with an average maximum of 87.04F (after removing duplicated ThreadEx sites). In 1993, there were 44 stations, with an average maximum temperature of 87.75F (after removing duplicated ThreadEx stations). Not as big of a difference in the means as one might think. Of course, I haven't made any effort at "gridding" or areal averaging to account for disparate location in the two sets. But with low temperatures factored in, I would certainly expect 2025 to come in somewhere above 1993's 18th place average. -
Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
TheClimateChanger replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Current forecasts suggest the possibility of at least 5 consecutive days of 100F readings at Charlotte, which would match the longest streak there on record. Certainly, looks like a hot stretch coming up for the southeastern United States. Yes, it's hot there in the summertime, but this looks pretty impressive even for those areas. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Among locations with data for periods. And this is just for max temps. With lows factored in, 2025 might be as warm. Excluding the questionable Bridgehampton readings, most places are within about 1F of 1993 average maximum temperatures this July so far, while Central Park is almost 5F colder! It looks like Central Park went from a warm bias to a cold bias, making direct comparisons tricky. LGA 0.8F cooler JFK 0.9F cooler Westchester SAME Islip 0.5F cooler Riverhead 1.6F cooler Bridgehampton 4.7F cooler Central Park 4.8F cooler -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Look how much hotter Central Park was than everywhere else in July 1993: Compare that to 2025: -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Obviously, metrics like that are also affected by warm biased readings. 1993 is tied for warmest on record at EWR by summer mean average, even though the climate divisional average is only 28th (and tied with 2 other years). At Central Park, it is 4th hottest (tied with 2020 & 1983) but only tied for 25th hottest for the Coastal New York climate division. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Too much emphasis being placed on single sites (EWR, NYC) and not on the larger regional averages. Summer 1993 was tied with 1994 & 1901 for 28th warmest overall in northern New Jersey. For coastal New York, it is tied with 1995 for 25th warmest. As I have noted on multiple occasions, the HO-83 hygrothermometers had a warm bias of a good 1-1.5F, making a huge impact on rankings in that era. Nationally, it ranked as the 16th coldest on record, with many areas in the Intermountain West seeing their coldest summer since the NCEI dataset began in 1895. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Crazy to see so many places 5-6F above the normal for 30 days in the heart of summer, especially with the current elevated norms. -
Among very long POR sites, Cedar Rapids, Iowa reached a daily record high minimum temperature (78F) with Baton Rouge, Louisiana tying its record high minimum (79F). Several other locations were close to records, with Moline, IL; Memphis, TN; and Tupelo, MS each matching their second warmest daily low. Looking at some observations this morning, Chicago and South Bend would each set new daily record high minimum temperatures if the current lows were to hold through the day. I didn't check anywhere else, but there's probably several more out there. Unfortunately, convection appears likely to spoil some of these low temperatures, especially at Chicago. South Bend might set a record even if there is convection there due to the high dewpoints. The current daily record high minimum there is 74F, whereas the low temperature this morning was 76F.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Certainly would have been a very pleasant July climate, which is a good thing in the pre-AC days. I always liked that Toronto, Canada has continuous records back to 1840. Seems to paint a similar picture, obviously Toronto being colder in general. -
I know there was some discussion about PIT and AGC maybe running warm at times last year, but it definitely seems to have been corrected. Arguably running a little on the cool side this year compared to surrounding observations, especially AGC. The official tally might have this July cooler than last, but overall it's been a bit warmer just about everywhere in the region (especially with the overnight minima).
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Table attached below shows the difference between mean low temperature for 1st 22 days of July 2025 versus mean low temperature for July 2024. 51 sites have data for both years. Missing data not a significant factor, only 7 of the sites have more than 3 days missing through the 1st 22 days of the month. It is a factor for some individual sites, e.g. Pike Island shows an 8.7F increase but had 15 missing days in July 2024. 49 of 51 warmer. Exceptions: Donegal 2NW Coop, bizarrely 3.3F cooler, and DUJ Airport, 0.5F cooler. The mean difference is +3.2F across the 51 sites. 4 of the 6 smallest increases are the airport sites - DUJ (0.5F cooler), AGC (1.0F warmer), MGW (1.4F warmer), and PIT (1.7F warmer). Compared to the mean (average) change across the 51 sites, DUJ is 3.7F cooler, AGC is 2.2F cooler, MGW is 1.8F cooler, and PIT is 1.5F cooler. The smaller airfields seem to be unaffected. AFJ is +5.6 for the year on year (or 2.4F warmer than the mean change) and BTP is +4.1F for the year on year comparison (or 0.9F warmer than the mean change).
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I don't know what's going on with the airport thermometers this year. It's bizarre. Like all the airports dropped 2-3F, every single one of them? Especially AGC and HLG. They went from one of the warmest spots in the PBZ CWA last July to among the coldest by mean maximum temperature this year? AGC has suddenly become one of the coldest spots in the entire CWA outside of some high mountain sites for daily high temperatures. PIT airport went from 1.7F warmer than the Moon Township COOP in July 2024, to 0.9F colder this July. The lows are still warmer, but they have dropped a bunch too relative to the COOP sites. Last year, 4 airport sites had the warmest daily low temperatures in July. This year, the highest is like 5th of all sites.
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Record warm daily minimum of 72F tied yesterday in St. Cloud, Minnesota (records since 1893). Saw several other sites that had their second or third warmest lows for July 23. Should see multiple records over the coming days across the central U.S.
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The ranges are HUGE as well - there is a BIG difference between 2C and 4C of temperature change up or down. I mean the last glacial maximum was only about 5-6C colder than preindustrial. Using 2025 at the baseline, it was 2C+ cooler just a few hundreds of years ago. So I'm pretty sure we could weather 2C of gradual cooling with no major repercussions. The earth has experienced such conditions within the past millennium. On the other hand, 4C of cooling would no doubt see substantial glacial advances, dropping sea levels, etc, but it's still well within the climate conditions faced by homo sapiens during their time on earth. An additional 2-4C of warming would result in climate conditions not seen on earth in tens of millions of years.
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Haha, I've sometimes called myself a skeptic in that sense (i.e., that it will be worse than let on). Turns out fossil fuel companies have much larger budgets than doomers!
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Not just Michigan. It's definitely been a very dry month to date in many locations in the lower Great Lakes. Just looking at the data for Fort Wayne, Cleveland and Buffalo, the last time (and only time) it was drier than this year at all three locations was 1936. Fort Wayne, Indiana (5th driest of 128 years) Cleveland, Ohio (11th driest of 155 years) Buffalo, New York (9th driest of 155 years) New Philadelphia, Ohio (2nd driest of 68 years) Bradford, Pennsylvania (6th driest of 65 years) Also, while the official Akron area site hasn't been quite as dry, the site at Akron Municipal Airport [formerly the official observation site for some time] has only registered 0.21" of rain, which is the driest of 83 years at the site.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
With that said, I did note a stunning reversal from the high heat and humidity with Saranac Lake plunging all the way to 34F this morning. That reading ties the daily record low set in 1914. The all-time record July monthly record low in the Saranac Lake threaded record is 29F, set on July 8, 1919. At the airport site, the all-time monthly record low is 32F, which has been set on more than one day, last on July 28, 2001. The all-time observed record low for the month of July in the state of New York is 25F, which was set at Allegany State Park, in Cattaragus County, on July 8, 1963. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Also, highly questionable to call the Bay Area likely lived through their coldest summer on record. That's true only if your dataset begins in 2000. Prior to that date, these look like fairly typical temperatures. We can see between 1946 & 1982 (a period of 37 years), there were 19 years as cold or colder than this one at the airport. So this year has actually been above the median summer temperature for the mid to late 20th century. This looks more like typical engagement farming, hype-driven nonsense than an observation predicated on historical data. It's literally just summer. San Francisco Airport San Francisco Downtown -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
The trend doesn't lie. If anything, this is more like the typical conditions that would have been present when Mark Twain famously quipped that the coldest winter he had ever experienced was a summer in San Francisco. I am assuming the weird anomaly in the 1980s & 1990s is due to a defective HO-83 hygrothermometer installation? I know they had a lot of problems with those reading high.