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Dec 16-17 Storm OBS Thread
crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Closing in on what also looks like 2” of fluff. This should pretty well compete with Pi Day. That was 26” in 15 hours. -
Dec 16-17 Storm OBS Thread
crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Finally commenced in Sullivan. 23/11 with point and click forecast of 21” now. Probably the last time @sferic and I see bare ground for a while, lol -
December 16-17, 2020 Storm Observations and Nowcast
crossbowftw3 replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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Narrowsburg, ~800 feet. Pretty close to them though
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Got the classic snow feel out there in the Catskills. Still swinging for 12-18 but probably upper bound for that. Ratios still look quite good. Only concern is that dews have dropped to below 10 up here and that snow may not start until after sunset. Otherwise good to go. someone >1500’ probably gets >2’ and maybe close to 30”, probably Hunter
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Likely happening over 12-18 hours, closer to perhaps 15 or so between mid-afternoon tomorrow and rapidly tapering off Thursday morning. The 1-2” (isolated 3?) inch hourly rates likely kicks off by 8-9 PM tomorrow night and rips until early morning. Lighter snows will continue past sunrise and continue thereafter until it ends by...realistically anywhere from 7 AM-Noon.
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For that matter what were our ratios for Pi Day? @sferic
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Correct. It may sneak into Sullivan for a time but probably not a guarantee. Like I said, won’t impact ratios too terribly. I would guess NEPA gets 10-12:1 while we stay closer to 12-14:1.
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Yep, gonna swing slightly under IMBY but a foot is pretty secure I think. Ratios still good but BGM did mention this in their AFD: Thermally, the models also suggest a nose of warmer air aloft advancing into at least the southeastern portion of our area overnight Wednesday night, yet still below freezing. This may contribute to some riming on ice crystals and thus slightly lower snow-to-liquid ratios. should not impact ratios too much but might create our upper bound at 12-18.
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Pretty reasonable for us north and west crew, falls in line with @Rjay had earlier. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Binghamton NY 259 PM EST Tue Dec 15 2020 NYZ055>057-062-PAZ038>040-162000- /O.UPG.KBGM.WS.A.0007.201216T2000Z-201217T1500Z/ /O.EXA.KBGM.WS.W.0005.201216T1800Z-201217T1500Z/ Tioga-Broome-Delaware-Sullivan-Bradford-Susquehanna- Northern Wayne- Including the cities of Owego, Waverly, Binghamton, Delhi, Walton, Monticello, Sayre, Towanda, Hallstead, Montrose, Damascus, and Equinunk 259 PM EST Tue Dec 15 2020 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM WEDNESDAY TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY... * WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 9 to 16 inches. * WHERE...In Pennsylvania, Bradford, Susquehanna and Northern Wayne counties. In New York, Tioga, Broome, Delaware and Sullivan counties. * WHEN...From 1 PM Wednesday to 10 AM EST Thursday. * IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible. The hazardous conditions will impact the Wednesday evening and Thursday morning commutes. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snowfall rates of 2 inches per hour possible late Wednesday afternoon through Wednesday night. East to northeast winds at 10 to 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph, especially at higher elevations, may cause some blowing snow and isolated power outages.
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Upstate/Eastern New York
crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Watches upgraded...seems pretty reasonable with the totals. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Binghamton NY 259 PM EST Tue Dec 15 2020 NYZ055>057-062-PAZ038>040-162000- /O.UPG.KBGM.WS.A.0007.201216T2000Z-201217T1500Z/ /O.EXA.KBGM.WS.W.0005.201216T1800Z-201217T1500Z/ Tioga-Broome-Delaware-Sullivan-Bradford-Susquehanna- Northern Wayne- Including the cities of Owego, Waverly, Binghamton, Delhi, Walton, Monticello, Sayre, Towanda, Hallstead, Montrose, Damascus, and Equinunk 259 PM EST Tue Dec 15 2020 ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM WEDNESDAY TO 10 AM EST THURSDAY... * WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 9 to 16 inches. * WHERE...In Pennsylvania, Bradford, Susquehanna and Northern Wayne counties. In New York, Tioga, Broome, Delaware and Sullivan counties. * WHEN...From 1 PM Wednesday to 10 AM EST Thursday. * IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible. The hazardous conditions will impact the Wednesday evening and Thursday morning commutes. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snowfall rates of 2 inches per hour possible late Wednesday afternoon through Wednesday night. East to northeast winds at 10 to 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph, especially at higher elevations, may cause some blowing snow and isolated power outages. -
BGM still talking between 12 and 14:1 as well. Pretty good I'd say. Helps limit power issues to a nonzero but quite limited factor and will be so much easier to clear. More concerned with areas closer to NYC and on coasts that do snow, paste bomb.
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what have we got for ratios? Still over 12:1 I assume?
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We gangbusters. Still crazy good ratios as well.
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Someone across CPA probably steals our jack and gets the 2' but I think we're good to go for 12-18. I don't think gusts get over 30. My point and click for tomorrow night is 10-15 gusts 25. Power issues should be quite limited but nonzero--we can be thankful the ratios will be good here.
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BGM has kept pretty steady between 12:1-14:1 with their discussions so that makes sense. Temperatures don't break 30 Wednesday daytime and fall to between 17-20 nighttime. All I need to know--good work as always.
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Walt, What's your best guess on ratios inland? Still between 12-14:1 or even up to 16?
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Active mid December with multiple event potential
crossbowftw3 replied to Typhoon Tip's topic in New England
Blizzard warnings definitely still do exist and get used. Some were used this past January but in the Upper Midwest. -
As an aside I sometimes love Joe’s ability to prop up the most ridiculous possible outcomes for a storm.
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crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
While I do like this, trends tonight will be very telling. 18z Euro isn't helping. -
0z is going to be huge for us north of 84.
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Upstate/Eastern New York
crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
18z Euro....off hour but nerves beginning in earnest again Went from 10-12 to 6-8 this run. 0z will be huge and very telling for the fates of everyone north of 84. -
Upstate/Eastern New York
crossbowftw3 replied to BuffaloWeather's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Fascinating, lmao... This is where the 10 degree dewpoint line likely is. Per @NJwx85 on NYC forum. It's basically over our heads. If models account for this look out -
30 miles north of 84, and under 10-15 miles from where that line is set up. I have to imagine further adjustments will be made. Still thinking failure mode will be 3-6 or maginal warning.
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