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Don, in place of Yatutat you can use Verhoyansk or Omjakon. Those three locations are often cited as the three coldest locations in the Northern Hemisphere and they are in the same geographical area. Also, I heard that Australia beat its hottest temp ever recorded (beating the record from last year), is this true and what is the new record? Is it 120 recorded at Forrest?

thats correct, but there are lots of natural processes that are highly destructive.

Not to mention all the toxic chemicals from the farms being drained into large bodies of waters and causing a massive die off. FYI these are also toxic to humans and are now being found in local lakes and aquifers where we get our drinking water from.

People always think the population problem is overblown and yet...... NOAA scientists said that overpopulation is the major reason why we face a climate change crisis and the best way to reduce your carbon footprint has been listed as having one less child. It's also a great way to lower pollution (as an example, Delhi was recently enveloped in so much smog that people couldn't breathe.) This is a pretty progressive point, as it's also been mentioned in the NY Times and Wa Po. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/best-way-reduce-your-carbon-footprint-one-government-isn-t-telling-you-about The best way to reduce your carbon footprint is one the government isn’t telling you about By Sid PerkinsJul. 11, 2017 , 4:30 PM Recycling and using public transit are all fine and good if you want to reduce your carbon footprint, but to truly make a difference you should have fewer children. That’s the conclusion of a new study in which researchers looked at 39 peer-reviewed papers, government reports, and web-based programs that assess how an individual’s lifestyle choices might shrink their personal share of emissions. Many commonly promoted options, such as washing clothes in cold water or swapping incandescent bulbs for light-emitting diodes, have only a moderate impact (see chart, below), the team reports today in Environmental Research Letters. But four lifestyle choices had a major impact: Become a vegetarian, forego air travel, ditch your car, and—most significantly—have fewer children.

yes and the president of Brazil letting the Amazon burn for more farmland.

people still have a sour taste after March 2001. like people still have a sour taste after Jan 2015, even though the season was excellent after that (and much better than 2000-01).

Boston has run well ahead of us too, it's all about latitude.

I for one am not frustrated, I just dont like rain and cant wait for drier weather with lots of sunshine- regardless of temps lol. I do get frustrated when someone tries to say that we've been "unlucky." This has nothing to do with luck, it's all part of the pattern, just like it was last winter. Years ago I remember seeing a chart that went something like this: December: Inland (snow) City (mixed) Long Island (rain) January: Inland (snow) City (snow) Long Island (mixed) February: Inland (snow) City (snow) Long Island (snow) I think this needs to be retooled a bit, as the big winter storms seem to start around January 20th now. December is really more like an exhibition month, the preseason lol.

I thought there was a mid level warm layer in there somewhere, shouldn't the valleys be colder than the high spots?

Yes but we recorded very small amounts (trace, under a tenth) here in Nassau county, so I think urbanization plays a major role here.

well being a winter purist, what I consider a wintry event is any event (no matter its size) that doesn't change to rain (unless at the very end of the event, when it doesn't really matter.)

its a cold pattern for strictly mathematical reasons, but not a good pattern for snow.

How does FOK get 0.2" of ice when they're right on the water lol?

Yep I've been hearing a lot about a very cold January coming up.

consecutive 60" rainfall years was unheard of prior to this decade lol.

a couple of those were decent winters but not extremely snowy (over 50" seasonal snowfall.)

Don, it's not about phasing out civilization but living in a much more sustainable way. I look at the native americans and how they lived much more in sync with the environment and did not drive other species to extinction the way the white man did. They were far more civilized. An example is all the toxic chemicals being used on our farms that are now polluting the waters of the GOM and our oceans and killing off sea life by depleting oxygen levels.

actually population collapse would be a good thing and I too believe that will happen in the future. I dont mean that in a cataclysmic sort of way, but more in the sense that fertility rates will drop (they are dropping already.) The earth's human population needs to stabilize around 1 billion, not tens of billions. That's for the health of humanity as well as the rest of our environment.

you need an effective world government that usurps the authorities of ignorant leaders like the "president" of Brazil. Economic sanctions can be used as a way to make them be more sustainable.

Population "stability" isn't enough, the earth is already overpopulated with humans. They're destroying essential tropical rain forests, polluting and crapping on the environment and driving the mass extinctions of other species. Add to that bad land usage with chemical fertilizers and pesticides and animal farming and you have a crisis on your hands. As John Kerry and Arnold said, climate change isn't a strong enough argument to convince most people- they dont care what's going on in the Arctic and dont care about sea level rises unless they live near a coastline. You need to use the pollution argument- look at how polluted the air in Delhi, India is (as an example.) There is a strong pollution argument to be made for why to stop using fossil fuels.

you think thats bad, imagine being a kid on Long Island during the mid 80s-to early 90s!

I guess I've always worried after a couple of close calls we've had (LGA has had them too.) Remember December 1995 when a plane slid off the runway at JFK? I think a similar incident happened at LGA more recently too.

I think JFK was the jackpot of the local airports over the weekend, that was about 2.5" of rain.

Having experienced various winters here over the decades, I can say that I find 50" of snowfall a season to be "satisfactory." Anything under 40" is not satisfactory, but 50" is what I consider a Grade A winter. 60" is A+

yes and lack of sunshine makes me grumpy (and also allergic).... I had to take benadryl again a few days ago when we were in the 50s and it was raining. For some reason I dont get allergies when it's snowing lol.