LibertyBell

I dont think the NWS ever lived down those monster totals they predicted for the Jan 2015 storm. Good thing Jan 2016 happened to make up for it (sorry it didn't hit you also.)

the ocean temp was 31 lol first time in my life I've seen freezing drizzle because of a sea breeze.....

They were analogging this storm to March 2001 before it started, I wonder if that will end up being an appropriate analog?

14-15 was a lot better (it was colder and snowier) than 13-14. How was the evolution different between those two winters? 14-15 would have been ideal if the peak of the storms was a bit further to the south and to the west. It went from a lackluster first half to near historic second half.

that's the first time I've ever seen an alert for a marine heatwave posted lol.

what exactly changed that the models didn't pick up on earlier, Chris?

well eastern New England, like around Boston, must be having near blizzard conditions right now.

Wow it's really windy out there! It's whistling and rattling my windows. Boston must have near blizzard conditions right now. Why do these storms always just barely miss us lol.

Indeed. It snowed quite steadily here from 8 PM to 7 AM. We already had like a quarter of an inch on the ground before that which fell between 2:30 PM and 3:30 PM.

I think that might have been an early season thing, I saw that there were areas of rain on the north shore early in the evening (like around 8 PM) while it was snowing to beat the band down here. I wrote a post about the timing of the change to snow, tell me if you think this is fairly accurate- where does the UWS fit in here?: 9 AM Staten Island. 10 AM North Shore (Huntington/Oyster Bay) 11 AM Central Park 12 PM Brooklyn 1 PM Queens 1:30-2:30 PM Western Long Island

More of a mid-late 80s pattern?

Yes I was really disappointed on the 2nd day of the Dec 2003 storm because I expected a HECS on the level of Jan 1996 and it never got quite that good. It snowed lightly throughout the day and was nothing like the first day of the storm, even though it was much colder. That's when I learned that colder temps dont necessarily mean more snowfall lol. How much did EWR get in total? Anything like the 20 inches across Central Long Island? Does that sort of remind you of the last March 2018 storm that also jackpotted Central Long Island with 20 inches of snow? That Jan 2011 storm was hall of fame worthy because all the snow that fell in the first part of the storm had melted already and we somehow still got to nearly 20" in about 5 hours of snowfall! I remember thundersleet and even a tornado reported just south of Long Island (waterspout) just before the second part got underway, at the tail end of the rush hour. FWIW that might have been actual hail and not thundersleet at the start of the second part of that storm!

I always forget that late Jan 2011 storm and should have added that to my list. I remember that one also came in two parts, with around 4-5 inches in the first part and another 15 inches in the second part.

I was thinking something like what we had in December 2003 (which was also in early December) might do it, Farmingdale picked up 20" in that two day storm. Even that storm was touch and go because it was supposed to change to rain on the first day but stayed all snow with the mix line just 5 miles south of us the entire day! It made for some awesome snowfall amounts because being just north of the mix line is ideal. It dropped into the teens the next day with the storm still ongoing but the highest rates shifted east of us to central Long Island. The city ended up with 13-14 inches total with 8 inches on the first day. That was the earliest Blizzard Warning I've ever experienced and we all had a foot plus of snow between the two days.

there was a 5 mile wide radar bubble with JFK its center for three hours yesterday where it was raining while it was snowing in every other direction, this happened from 11:30 AM to 2:30 PM. At least it snowed here for a few hours longer than it did in the city to make up for it so the totals evened out (although you can't tell by that map because the last measurements were taken at 1 am while it was still snowing here until 7 am or so.)

They always hate on Queens lol. Do you know when they calculated the NESIS value of the Jan 2016 blizzard they ignored JFK's 31" total from that storm even though that total was confirmed on re-analysis? That storm would have pulled ahead of March 1960's NESIS value had JFK's measurement been taken into account.

Merrick got upgraded to 2.0" yippee lol

1.5" seems to be quite widespread with this storm along the coast, with a high of 3.5" in some spots. For so much banding this storm was quite uniform for us.

what would it have taken for this two day storm to be all snow for us? Just a small track change or some major global indices shift to make the pattern more favorable?

oh wow, 63-64 must've been an amazing el nino winter! how much did we get in those two long duration storms? How much in the Dec `1959 storm?

Remember the Feb 08 SWFE? 6 inches of snow even here on the south shore!

Well, it made me wonder if extremely long duration storms have gotten more rare with time? At least for us, our big storms seem to be more of the quick hitting high snowfall rate variety. When was the last time we had a big two or three day storm? The only three day storms I can think of are Dec 1991, Mar 1962, Feb 1920 and Mar 1888. And none of those were all snow, although the earlier two were HECS with high amounts of snow mixed in.

it reminded me a bit of the post Xmas 2002 storm!

It's weird to get such a long event with no blocking! How can that happen? I was trying to remember all our 30 hour + events- did they all have blocking? The ones I can remember off the top of my head or read about- March 2018, Jan 2016, Feb 2010, Dec 2003, Feb 2003, March 2001, Jan 1996, Mar 1993, Dec 1992, Feb 1983, Feb 1978, Feb 1969, Mar 1962, Feb 1961, Dec 1960, Mar 1960, Mar 1958, Mar 1956, Dec 1947, Feb 1920, Feb 1899, Jan 1896, March 1888. There are others I'm probably forgetting.

It's very photogenic but looks like it's melting pretty quick, better take pics quick or it'll be gone before noon! The birds are having a field day too, I think they're playing in it and eating (drinking) it?