I have been ignoring Webber and Roundy since it became apparent to me that they weren't interested in anything other than perpetuating their own agendas....probably about August or so. They both look irresponsible, obstinate and silly.
Family is away til January...they'd just come home and fine me dangling from a noose tied to the star on top of the tree.....hell of an "ornament" for the kids to walk in on.