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It has gotten more so as the day progressed. I like the comparison.

Sky looked like Mordor most of the day.

Nice to see you getting the SSB back on road

They got hit then too. The 2013 storm I think was the largest tornado on record and killed those chasers but some think the 2011 tornado was up there with the strongest tornadoes on record. Tossed a 1.9 million pound oil rig.

Warm look on the extended. It’s not an inferno, but solid AN look. It’s here baby.

El Reno was 2013 right?

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?

Linden? KLDJ I think?

Don't forget Irene. And not just here either. Super outbreak 4/27. Joplin 5/22. Major outbreak 5/24 (El Reno, et al).

Jun 27 ___101 1966 this was one special summer, and the hottest was yet to come....

They're going to have a big problem with fresh water supplies if they aren't already. And throughout Europe.

Here's the thoughts on the causal mechanism. The Swiss live in concert with glaciers, rockfall and permafrost. I too, have seen these landscapes rapidly changing in places I've visited such as the Central and Northern Rockies, Austrian and Swiss Alps, Norwegian Alps, Dolomites and Iceland. The changes there are accelerating as one can readily see and in talking with the locals- you don't need a lot of data to understand what is going on. They are huge and macro in nature. I'd ask that Dyou do a little reading on glaciology and get familiar with this science before you readily use the words "nothing burger". Maybe in a small county in Pa. according to your rightly disputed charts- but to throw that opinion around conflicts with observed real life. I hope you can realize that. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-causes-glaciers-to-collapse-like-the-event-that-buried-a-swiss-village/#:~:text=The glacier's collapse and the,the past couple of weeks.

First 5 months of this year all chillier than last year, at Central Park, averaging some 3 degrees colder.

Yeah most of us are looking forward to the gorgeous warmth and dews. month after month, it's great

Wildfire smoke has made it here . Lost the deep blues from earlier . Reminds me of two summers ago

You want a negative Bz

Where can I get industrial vinegar? The stuff at the grocery store isn't strong enough?

So, is this Canadian wildfire smoke coming in to ruin the next few dry days, with muted sunshine and cooler than forecast temps or is it supposed to miss us? I've seen both forecasts.

It's summer, I guess.

Certainly a lame May this year. Good riddance. 000 CXUS51 KILN 010530 CF6DAY PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) STATION: DAYTON OH MONTH: MAY YEAR: 2025 LATITUDE: 39 54 N LONGITUDE: 84 12 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 78 62 70 11 0 5 0.28 0.0 0 13.5 36 240 M M 8 13 50 250 2 76 60 68 8 0 3 0.16 0.0 0 10.9 25 240 M M 8 38 32 230 3 60 48 54 -6 11 0 0.66 0.0 0 13.6 32 60 M M 10 1 44 50 4 63 47 55 -5 10 0 0.67 0.0 0 6.7 21 20 M M 10 13 27 10 5 60 47 54 -7 11 0 0.07 0.0 0 5.6 10 220 M M 9 1 14 150 6 70 51 61 0 4 0 1.16 0.0 0 12.8 26 270 M M 10 1 35 260 7 74 51 63 2 2 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.2 16 10 M M 6 16 10 8 70 47 59 -3 6 0 0.00 0.0 0 10.8 23 10 M M 6 1 29 360 9 64 41 53 -9 12 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.8 17 360 M M 1 1 24 30 10 76 44 60 -2 5 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.2 8 210 M M 3 11 210 11 80 50 65 3 0 0 0.00 0.0 0 8.4 16 40 M M 6 20 70 12 72 59 66 3 0 1 0.17 0.0 0 10.2 17 110 M M 9 1 24 100 13 76 63 70 7 0 5 0.27 0.0 0 6.0 16 230 M M 9 138 20 230 14 73 60 67 4 0 2 0.03 0.0 0 7.8 18 210 M M 9 138 23 180 15 86 63 75 11 0 10 0.00 0.0 0 10.8 21 200 M M 5 30 200 16 83 62 73 9 0 8 0.50 0.0 0 13.9 31 230 M M 7 13 51 230 17 70 60 65 1 0 0 0.09 0.0 0 16.6 30 260 M M 5 13 40 260 18 73 56 65 0 0 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.0 14 320 M M 5 20 330 19 76 50 63 -2 2 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.0 16 60 M M 6 23 70 20 63 52 58 -7 7 0 0.53 0.0 0 13.4 22 130 M M 9 1 29 100 21 67 54 61 -5 4 0 0.07 0.0 0 14.9 29 260 M M 10 1 38 270 22 58 47 53 -13 12 0 0.02 0.0 0 14.3 22 280 M M 9 1 30 260 23 64 43 54 -12 11 0 0.01 0.0 0 10.9 24 280 M M 4 34 290 24 68 45 57 -9 8 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.0 15 350 M M 4 23 290 25 66 47 57 -10 8 0 0.00 0.0 0 5.0 15 360 M M 7 18 360 26 71 46 59 -8 6 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.8 18 50 M M 6 8 35 30 27 66 56 61 -6 4 0 0.03 0.0 0 11.3 18 90 M M M 1 25 90 28 64 55 60 -8 5 0 0.05 0.0 0 M 9 210 M M M 1 13 210 29 74 58 66 -2 0 1 T 0.0 0 6.8 15 270 M M 9 18 21 290 30 73 57 65 -3 0 0 0.23 0.0 0 6.7 22 320 M M 9 138 32 320 31 69 53 61 -7 4 0 0.00 0.0 0 11.9 22 330 M M 5 8 29 340 ================================================================================ SM 2183 1634 132 35 5.00 0.0 291.8 M 204 ================================================================================ AV 70.4 52.7 9.7 FASTST M M 7 MAX(MPH) MISC ----> 36 240 51 230 ================================================================================ NOTES: # LAST OF SEVERAL OCCURRENCES COLUMN 17 PEAK WIND IN M.P.H. PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) , PAGE 2 STATION: DAYTON OH MONTH: MAY YEAR: 2025 LATITUDE: 39 54 N LONGITUDE: 84 12 W [TEMPERATURE DATA] [PRECIPITATION DATA] SYMBOLS USED IN COLUMN 16 AVERAGE MONTHLY: 61.6 TOTAL FOR MONTH: 5.00 1 = FOG OR MIST DPTR FM NORMAL: -2.4 DPTR FM NORMAL: 0.49 2 = FOG REDUCING VISIBILITY HIGHEST: 86 ON 15 GRTST 24HR 1.23 ON 5- 6 TO 1/4 MILE OR LESS LOWEST: 41 ON 9 3 = THUNDER SNOW, ICE PELLETS, HAIL 4 = ICE PELLETS TOTAL MONTH: 0.0 INCH 5 = HAIL GRTST 24HR 0.0 6 = FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLE GRTST DEPTH: 0 7 = DUSTSTORM OR SANDSTORM: VSBY 1/2 MILE OR LESS 8 = SMOKE OR HAZE [NO. OF DAYS WITH] [WEATHER - DAYS WITH] 9 = BLOWING SNOW X = TORNADO MAX 32 OR BELOW: 0 0.01 INCH OR MORE: 18 MAX 90 OR ABOVE: 0 0.10 INCH OR MORE: 10 MIN 32 OR BELOW: 0 0.50 INCH OR MORE: 5 MIN 0 OR BELOW: 0 1.00 INCH OR MORE: 1 [HDD (BASE 65) ] TOTAL THIS MO. 132 CLEAR (SCALE 0-3) 1 DPTR FM NORMAL 7 PTCLDY (SCALE 4-7) 16 TOTAL FM JUL 1 4796 CLOUDY (SCALE 8-10) 14 DPTR FM NORMAL -339 [CDD (BASE 65) ] TOTAL THIS MO. 35 DPTR FM NORMAL -59 [PRESSURE DATA] TOTAL FM JAN 1 60 HIGHEST SLP M ON M DPTR FM NORMAL -51 LOWEST SLP 29.53 ON 16 [REMARKS] #FINAL-05-25# First colder-than-normal month since February and the third colder-than-normal month of 2025 (Yes, there was a cold January and February this year).

Scott Sabol has some sort of "What went wrong?" writeup regarding this Spring https://sabolscience.blogspot.com/2025/05/why-has-spring-been-so-wetcool.html?m=1

We summer . You can just hear and feel the collective sigh and relaxing on the forum Hot and humid conditions Wednesday through Friday * Conditions expected to become more unsettled from Thursday through Saturday.

As long as you do it by Wednesday.

I think what you are saying bluewave is that the NAO would be -0.75 if 09-10 happened today, vs the -1.5 that it was back then.

Weatherwise - a bit surreal out there.