June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[bluewave]

23 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Where I live now it seems like the worst of both worlds-we get the high humidity being somewhat close to the shore but it’s able to heat up a lot before the seabreeze eventually gets here by 4-5pm sometimes. Springs can be brutal in Long Beach but it’s nice to have low 80s there while the city, N Shore and inland are well into the 90s and sweltering. I was in TX a couple weeks ago and felt that kind of heat again-not a fan whatsoever of being soaked in sweat within 5 minutes being outside. 

Yeah, I am near the CT Shoreline and get great sea breezes. Yesterday was my warmest day of the season so far at 89° with more westerly flow that we have been getting recently. Only had 9 days reach 90° last year. There is also better radiational cooling here than I used to get back on the LI South Shore. 

[SACRUS]

 

 

74 / 53 breaks in the clouds for now.   Cooler today highs in the low 80s with enough sun in the warmest areas.   Clouds arriving on schedule for the weekend with a cloud filled cool onshore flow.   Highs near or below 70 Saturday / Sunday and while the brunt of ht heaviest rain will stay south with the front still 0.5 - 1.00 in the highest places mainly south.  Mon / Tuesday not much better with hung up front lingering ,  70s and chance of rain/ showers any sun shine will get us mid 70s or near 80.  Clearing out later on Tuesday and setting up a much warmer to hotter close to the week as we enter into a much warmer period that transitions to hotter with western heat building north and east by the 20th and beyond.  Still could feature frequent storms chances around the rim of the ridge but hotter finish to the month continues to be focussed 6/20 - beyond.

 

6/13 : near 80 clouds increase
6/14 - 6/17 : Judy Collins clouds got in the way - cool - rain / heaviest stays south 0.5 or +
6/18 - 6/19 : Warmer / drier near / slightly above normal
6/20 - beyond :  Ridge pushes higher heights and heats builds into the east. - Hotter / still wet

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 99 (2017)
NYC: 96 (1961)
LGA: 101 (2017)
JFK: 95 (1983)


 

Lows:

EWR: 51 (1982)
NYC: 51 (1953)
LGA: 51 (1982)
JFK: 51 (1980)


Historical:

 

1889 - Forest fires in northern Wisconsin and northeast Minnesota were in the process of destroying millions of dollars of board feet of timber. (David Ludlum)

1907 - The temperature at Tamarack, CA, dipped to 2 degrees above zero, the lowest reading of record for June for the U.S. The high that day was 30 degrees. Tamarack received 42 inches of snow between the 10th and the 13th. On the 13th the snow depth was 130 inches. (The Weather Channel)

1955: Water from the Spring Mountains swept down on Las Vegas, NV after a violent thunderstorm of rain and hail, virtually isolating the City, flooding hundreds of homes and stores and causing an untold amount in property damage. Residents of the Twin Lakes Subdivision reported that a four-foot wall of water came down from the slope of Mt. Charleston. Hardest hit was the Brentwood Park Tract, where large stocks of lumber, stacked for construction on new homes, were washed away by the flood, and littered the Municipal Golf Course and Twin Lakes Subdivision. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1956: Boston, Massachusetts recorded peak gust of 84 mph gusts during a thunderstorm. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1967: Three separate lines of thunderstorms developed and raced across eastern South Dakota. The storms dumped up to 5 inches of rain and hail the size of golf balls was common. Winds gusted to 71 mph in the Aberdeen area resulting in some damage. Crop damage was 100% in some areas in the northeast due to the relentless hail and flooding rains. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1968: A violent F5 tornado killed 9 people at Tracy, MN. Over 110 homes were destroyed, while a steel I-beam was reportedly carried for 2 miles on a piece of roof. Two farms hit by this tornado were also hit by a violent F4 tornado on 6/24/1924.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1969: 10 inches of snow fell in Deerfield, SD as an unusual late season storm covered parts of South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana and Nebraska. Five inches of snow was measured at Great Falls, MT. The low temperature at Billings, MT fell to 32°, their latest freeze on record. The temperature also fell to 32° the previous day; both tying a record low for the month of June. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1976: A deadly tornado moved across parts of the southwestern Chicago, IL suburbs killing two people and injuring 23 others. The tornado, with winds over 200 mph moved from Lemont to Downers Grove causing $13 million dollars in damage when 89 homes were destroyed and another 90 were damaged. The tornado passed over the Argonne National Laboratory, peeling part of a roof off the building housing a nuclear reactor. The tornadoes movement was rather erratic moving southeast the north and finally turning northwest. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1984 - Severe thunderstorms struck Denver deluging the city with five inches of rain, and leaving up to six feet of water in some places. Softball size hail smashed windshields and ripped through metal cars. Snow plows had to be called out. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Fifteen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including International Falls, MN, with a reading of 92 degrees. Mason City IA and Waterloo IA reported record highs of 100 degrees. Thunderstorms in the northeastern U.S. produced golf ball size hail around Hamilton Square NJ, along with high winds which tore the roof off a hospital causing a million dollars damage. Averill Park NY was deluged with 1.64 inches of rain in fifteen minutes. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Afternoon thunderstorms produced severe weather in the Southern and Central Plains Region. Forrest NM was deluged with 5.5 inches of rain in ninety minutes. Temperatures soared into the 90s across much of the eastern half of the nation, including New England. Northern Illinois reported a record twenty straight days of dry weather. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains Region to the Carolinas during the day and night, and continued to drench parts of Texas and Oklahoma with heavy rain. Oklahoma City reported 13.41 inches of rain for the first thirteen days of the month, and Fort Worth TX reported 29.56 inches for the year, a total more than 13 inches above normal. Severe drought continued to rage across South Texas. (The National Weather Summary)

 

1991: Lightning struck a tree at the U.S. Open Golf Tournament being held at Chaska, MN. One spectator was killed, and six others were injured. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1993: Four inches of rain fell in one hour on Lenox, IA as the Great Mississippi Flood of 1993 was beginning. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1994: A series of violent thunderstorms roared across parts of western and central New York. The thunderstorm winds downed trees and power lines. A tornado touched down in the town of Freedom. Damage was intermittent along the mile long path, with only tree damage for the first 3/4 mile. Over its last quarter mile the tornado destroyed a 25 x 25 foot garage. The tornado then struck the Pleasantview Mobile Home Park. A roof which was blown off one mobile home penetrated the wall of another home about 200 feet away. Two other mobile homes were lifted and moved off their foundations. The thunderstorms dropped between two and four inches of rain which produced flash flooding. One hundred basements were flooded in Jamestown. Damage from flash flooding was extensive in Allegany State Park in Cattaraugus County. Two recreational bridges collapsed and other major bridges were undermined. Beaches were damaged extensively and roads were washed out. In one instance, the blacktop from one road was carried over 20 feet. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

2002: As thunderstorms roared through Ponca City, OK with lots of large hail and wall clouds, lightning caused a fire at a Conoco refinery. The news immediately sent gasoline futures higher by 50 points. The refinery was back on line quickly, but gasoline prices rose a few extra cents in time for the Fourth of July Holiday. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2005: Low pressure, the remnants of Hurricane Arlene, moved northeast across the Great Lakes. The bands of showers and thunderstorms produced damage across parts of the Niagara Frontier and Finger Lakes. Heavy rains produced flash flooding in Livingston County, an area which received heavy rains on several consecutive days. The strong winds downed trees and limbs in Le Roy, Stafford, Mendon, Livonia, Lockport, Kendall, and Clarkson. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

[Brian5671]

35 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, I am near the CT Shoreline and get great sea breezes. Yesterday was my warmest day of the season so far at 89° with more westerly flow that we have been getting recently. Only had 9 days reach 90° last year. There is also better radiational cooling here than I used to get back on the LI South Shore. 

I'm about 5 miles inland here...90 degree days are actually somewhat rare compared to nearby places like Danbury White Plains or Newark given the seabreeze

[Sundog]

Dewpoints are currently at nice levels, we take

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

If the EPS is correct about that 594DM heat dome in around 10 days, then it would give us our first mid to upper 90s of the season. 

 

That might be a good pattern to get MCS or derechos to track through from the Midwest. Looks like a ring of fire type pattern. 

[psv88]

My AC broke yesterday, at least it will be a cool weekend!

[Brian5671]

3 minutes ago, psv88 said:

My AC broke yesterday, at least it will be a cool weekend!

yeah we had the same issue last week for our upstairs unit....was fixed Sat but then it cooled off lol

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

I'm about 5 miles inland here...90 degree days are actually somewhat rare compared to nearby places like Danbury White Plains or Newark given the seabreeze

Yeah, the 90° day count rises pretty quickly here in CT once we move inland from the shore. But not as extreme as NJ has been recently.  I get a few more 90° days than Islip. 
 

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[psv88]

40 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

yeah we had the same issue last week for our upstairs unit....was fixed Sat but then it cooled off lol

Terrible. Couldn’t get the upstairs below 75 last night. 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

That might be a good pattern to get MCS or derechos to track through from the Midwest. Looks like a ring of fire type pattern. 

Yeah, that’s what the Euro is hinting at around 10+ days out. Once these heat domes begin to flex the MCS train gets going over the Upper Midwest and race eastward. They seem to have been finding a way to go north or south of us in recent years. But eventually we’ll probably see another big one again. 
 

 

[winterwx21]

1 hour ago, psv88 said:

My AC broke yesterday, at least it will be a cool weekend!

That'll be a good time for you to get it fixed. The next few days will be the last stretch in which AC isn't needed. After that it will be constant AC until the fall. 

[SACRUS]

 

76 / 49

 

 

[Poker2015]

1 hour ago, winterwx21 said:

That'll be a good time for you to get it fixed. The next few days will be the last stretch in which AC isn't needed. After that it will be constant AC until the fall. 

Had one of our units fixed last week. $100 per lb of the coolant stuff $$$$

[LibertyBell]

6 hours ago, bluewave said:

If NYC increased the 90° count at the same rate as LGA and EWR last 30 years, then they would have around 28 days instead of only 18 days. So moving the sensor into the shade shaved off about 10 days. Yesterday was a prime example of this as some spots in NYC made it to 94° and the park was only 87°.

June 12th high temperatures

Corona, Queens…94°

Brownsville, Queens….94°

Newark….92°

Astoria, Queens…91°

LGA….90°

JFK….90°

BDR…90°

FRG….89°

HVN…89°

ISP…..88°

NYC….87°

HPN….87°

Yesterday is a prime example of JFK being hotter than ISP too, they average more 90 degree days than ISP does.

It hit 80 here around noon before the clouds came back.

We need more days like yesterday.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

That'll be a good time for you to get it fixed. The next few days will be the last stretch in which AC isn't needed. After that it will be constant AC until the fall. 

I wouldn't say that, this could be one of the cooler rainier summers.

I only turn on the a/c for a few hours late in the afternoon.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

76 / 49

 

 

it hit 80 here at noon before the temperature dropped

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, that’s what the Euro is hinting at around 10+ days out. Once these heat domes begin to flex the MCS train gets going over the Upper Midwest and race eastward. They seem to have been finding a way to go north or south of us in recent years. But eventually we’ll probably see another big one again. 
 

 

doesn't a ring of fire mean extreme heat here? those thunderstorms go to our north normally.

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, jm1220 said:

That might be a good pattern to get MCS or derechos to track through from the Midwest. Looks like a ring of fire type pattern. 

hopefully that stuff stays to our north and west like it did in 1993 and 1995. ring of fire is what I associate with extreme heat (hence the term fire lol).

 

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 99 (2017)
NYC: 96 (1961)
LGA: 101 (2017)
JFK: 95 (1983)


 

Lows:

EWR: 51 (1982)
NYC: 51 (1953)
LGA: 51 (1982)
JFK: 51 (1980)


Historical:

 

1889 - Forest fires in northern Wisconsin and northeast Minnesota were in the process of destroying millions of dollars of board feet of timber. (David Ludlum)

1907 - The temperature at Tamarack, CA, dipped to 2 degrees above zero, the lowest reading of record for June for the U.S. The high that day was 30 degrees. Tamarack received 42 inches of snow between the 10th and the 13th. On the 13th the snow depth was 130 inches. (The Weather Channel)

1955: Water from the Spring Mountains swept down on Las Vegas, NV after a violent thunderstorm of rain and hail, virtually isolating the City, flooding hundreds of homes and stores and causing an untold amount in property damage. Residents of the Twin Lakes Subdivision reported that a four-foot wall of water came down from the slope of Mt. Charleston. Hardest hit was the Brentwood Park Tract, where large stocks of lumber, stacked for construction on new homes, were washed away by the flood, and littered the Municipal Golf Course and Twin Lakes Subdivision. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1956: Boston, Massachusetts recorded peak gust of 84 mph gusts during a thunderstorm. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events)

1967: Three separate lines of thunderstorms developed and raced across eastern South Dakota. The storms dumped up to 5 inches of rain and hail the size of golf balls was common. Winds gusted to 71 mph in the Aberdeen area resulting in some damage. Crop damage was 100% in some areas in the northeast due to the relentless hail and flooding rains. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1968: A violent F5 tornado killed 9 people at Tracy, MN. Over 110 homes were destroyed, while a steel I-beam was reportedly carried for 2 miles on a piece of roof. Two farms hit by this tornado were also hit by a violent F4 tornado on 6/24/1924.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1969: 10 inches of snow fell in Deerfield, SD as an unusual late season storm covered parts of South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana and Nebraska. Five inches of snow was measured at Great Falls, MT. The low temperature at Billings, MT fell to 32°, their latest freeze on record. The temperature also fell to 32° the previous day; both tying a record low for the month of June. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

1976: A deadly tornado moved across parts of the southwestern Chicago, IL suburbs killing two people and injuring 23 others. The tornado, with winds over 200 mph moved from Lemont to Downers Grove causing $13 million dollars in damage when 89 homes were destroyed and another 90 were damaged. The tornado passed over the Argonne National Laboratory, peeling part of a roof off the building housing a nuclear reactor. The tornadoes movement was rather erratic moving southeast the north and finally turning northwest. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1984 - Severe thunderstorms struck Denver deluging the city with five inches of rain, and leaving up to six feet of water in some places. Softball size hail smashed windshields and ripped through metal cars. Snow plows had to be called out. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Fifteen cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including International Falls, MN, with a reading of 92 degrees. Mason City IA and Waterloo IA reported record highs of 100 degrees. Thunderstorms in the northeastern U.S. produced golf ball size hail around Hamilton Square NJ, along with high winds which tore the roof off a hospital causing a million dollars damage. Averill Park NY was deluged with 1.64 inches of rain in fifteen minutes. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Afternoon thunderstorms produced severe weather in the Southern and Central Plains Region. Forrest NM was deluged with 5.5 inches of rain in ninety minutes. Temperatures soared into the 90s across much of the eastern half of the nation, including New England. Northern Illinois reported a record twenty straight days of dry weather. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains Region to the Carolinas during the day and night, and continued to drench parts of Texas and Oklahoma with heavy rain. Oklahoma City reported 13.41 inches of rain for the first thirteen days of the month, and Fort Worth TX reported 29.56 inches for the year, a total more than 13 inches above normal. Severe drought continued to rage across South Texas. (The National Weather Summary)

 

1991: Lightning struck a tree at the U.S. Open Golf Tournament being held at Chaska, MN. One spectator was killed, and six others were injured. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1993: Four inches of rain fell in one hour on Lenox, IA as the Great Mississippi Flood of 1993 was beginning. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1994: A series of violent thunderstorms roared across parts of western and central New York. The thunderstorm winds downed trees and power lines. A tornado touched down in the town of Freedom. Damage was intermittent along the mile long path, with only tree damage for the first 3/4 mile. Over its last quarter mile the tornado destroyed a 25 x 25 foot garage. The tornado then struck the Pleasantview Mobile Home Park. A roof which was blown off one mobile home penetrated the wall of another home about 200 feet away. Two other mobile homes were lifted and moved off their foundations. The thunderstorms dropped between two and four inches of rain which produced flash flooding. One hundred basements were flooded in Jamestown. Damage from flash flooding was extensive in Allegany State Park in Cattaraugus County. Two recreational bridges collapsed and other major bridges were undermined. Beaches were damaged extensively and roads were washed out. In one instance, the blacktop from one road was carried over 20 feet. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

2002: As thunderstorms roared through Ponca City, OK with lots of large hail and wall clouds, lightning caused a fire at a Conoco refinery. The news immediately sent gasoline futures higher by 50 points. The refinery was back on line quickly, but gasoline prices rose a few extra cents in time for the Fourth of July Holiday. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2005: Low pressure, the remnants of Hurricane Arlene, moved northeast across the Great Lakes. The bands of showers and thunderstorms produced damage across parts of the Niagara Frontier and Finger Lakes. Heavy rains produced flash flooding in Livingston County, an area which received heavy rains on several consecutive days. The strong winds downed trees and limbs in Le Roy, Stafford, Mendon, Livonia, Lockport, Kendall, and Clarkson. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1993: Four inches of rain fell in one hour on Lenox, IA as the Great Mississippi Flood of 1993 was beginning. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

and one of our greatest summers of all time !!

JFK: 95 (1983)

 

looks like the great summer of 1983 began around this time too

[LibertyBell]

6 hours ago, bluewave said:

If NYC increased the 90° count at the same rate as LGA and EWR last 30 years, then they would have around 28 days instead of only 18 days. So moving the sensor into the shade shaved off about 10 days. Yesterday was a prime example of this as some spots in NYC made it to 94° and the park was only 87°.

June 12th high temperatures

Corona, Queens…94°

Brownsville, Queens….94°

Newark….92°

Astoria, Queens…91°

LGA….90°

JFK….90°

BDR…90°

FRG….89°

HVN…89°

ISP…..88°

NYC….87°

HPN….87°

I trust the temperatures near JFK a lot more than I trust either LGA or EWR.  JFK temperatures are more natural and what I would expect to be normal for the area without human interference.  LGA and EWR seem inflated..... I can personally speak to inflated temperatures near LGA because of congestion.  My car thermometer records a 5-10 degree spike when I exit the Mid Town Tunnel and enter Queens and this spike lasts until I get on the Grand Central.  It's more than UHI, it's the large number of people driving cars  and all the car exhaust that artificially boosts temperatures in that region. We didn't have this kind of car congestion in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.  It's why it stays higher at night around LGA too.

 

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, Sundog said:

I love that JFK got its first 90 before Central Park on a SW wind mind you 

That's rich

JFK gets  a bad rap, but it's hotter around here than it is in a park, we're in an urban area-- this isn't Fire Island lol.

[LibertyBell]

17 hours ago, Sundog said:

The good news is you only need like 10 minutes of Sun to get your daily dose of Vitamin D so you only need a 20 minute sunny window all weekend lolol

But that doesn't improve SAD.

You can also get Vitamin D from fish and milk, but the real benefit of the sun is improving mood.

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

7.61 inches of rain since May 1st in the park.  I am noticing TTN seems to be lower than surrounding sites in the last 4 years but havent looked to deep into it.  The park has been a clear outlier when abundantly wet and overgrowth.

Beginning in June a SW wind isn't all that cool here.... maybe for Fire Island, but a SW wind has a very short trajectory over water here and I've seen it hit 90 many times here on a SW wind in June and 100 on a SW wind in July.

 

[LibertyBell]

6 hours ago, bluewave said:

If the EPS is correct about that 594DM heat dome in around 10 days, then it would give us our first mid to upper 90s of the season. 

 

hopefully 100 and no more rain, we don't live in Ireland and don't need any more rain.

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, Sundog said:

I wouldn't mind as much if highs got that high on a regular basis if:

A: the dewpoints stayed below 60

B: temps would drop at sundown to the low 80s at least if not lower

C: we have a nice breeze

you would have loved 1993, 1999, 2002 and 2010 lol.

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, this is why I like living near the shoreline. I used to get a great sea breeze back on the South Shore of LI. Now I get the local sea breezes off the Long Island Sound. 

forget sea breezes, a westerly wind, 101 degrees and a 45 dew point is far better and great running weather !

all a sea breeze does is make it more humid....

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Where I live now it seems like the worst of both worlds-we get the high humidity being somewhat close to the shore but it’s able to heat up a lot before the seabreeze eventually gets here by 4-5pm sometimes. Springs can be brutal in Long Beach but it’s nice to have low 80s there while the city, N Shore and inland are well into the 90s and sweltering. I was in TX a couple weeks ago and felt that kind of heat again-not a fan whatsoever of being soaked in sweat within 5 minutes being outside. 

That sometimes happens here too, the sea breeze gets here after 3 or 4 pm

But listen, the sea breeze isn't all that it's cracked up to be, all it does it make it more humid.

May I introduce you to July 4, 2010, when it was 101 degrees with a 45 dew point at JFK?

That is FAR better than any sea breeze, you don't sweat in it and it's GREAT running weather!

 

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, Sundog said:

Dewpoints are currently at nice levels, we take

it was nice until noon when the clouds came in.  The high was 80 here.

[lee59]

I have only .70 inch of rain for the month of June, so far.