June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[SACRUS]

27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

LGA and JFK's last really hot summer on this scale was also 2010.  I consider that the peak of what's possible here in terms of summer heat.

EWR is a furnace, it doesn't even belong in the same climate zone with the rest of us.

 

NE-NJ and CNJ and parts of SI run closer to EWR than NYC 

[SACRUS]

 

66 so far today here as its clouded / smoked up since 1pm

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

yes if blockbuster means 40+ 90 degree days and not the 3 months as a whole, yes.  2016 , 2020 were very hot summers as well.  

Lets see who gets to 90 east of the Hudson and Narrows Wed - Fri to start tallying and tacking on this year albeit late but a start.

Not sure how hot 2019 was but there were a couple of days that really roasted in late July and we had a power outage to boot.  99 for two consecutive days at JFK and heat indices of 117 both days, the highest I've ever seen here.

 

[WE GOT HIM]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

66 so far today here as its clouded / smoked up since 1pm

Hi SAcurus

[forkyfork]

28 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NE-NJ and CNJ and parts of SI run closer to EWR than NYC 

if we put a station a little west of the airport it would be the hottest

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

if we put a station a little west of the airport it would be the hottest

and one in Mineola for Long Island.

when is our tech going to be accurate enough that we won't need expensive ASOS or stations anymore and a satellite can just accurately tell what the exact temperature is (and rainfall/windfall/wind speeds) at any point on the planet?

 

[Roger Smith]

<<<<< JUNE DAILY RECORDS NYC 1869-2024 >>>>>

_Date___Hi max __Hi min ______ Low max _ low min ________ 1d rain __ 2d rain**

Jun 01 ___ 96 1895 ___ 77 1895 _______ 58 1945,2015 _44 1945 _________ 2.60 1887 ___3.13 1940 

Jun 02 ___ 96 1895 ___ 76 1895, 1918__ 52 1907,46___48 1880,1907,29,45.46 _ 2.79 2006 ___3.78 2006 

Jun 03 ___ 95 1895 ___ 75 1943 _______ 53 1945 _____45 1929 (68) ______ 3.01 1996 ___3.55 2006 

Jun 04 ___ 99 1925 ___ 78 1943 _______ 52 1945 _____48 1926 (58 5th) __ 2.75 2003 ___3.91 2007a

Jun 05 ___ 99 1925 ___ 78 1925 _______ 55 1945 _____47 1945 ___________ 2.80 1992 ___2.80 1992*

Jun 06 ___ 98 1925 ___ 77 1925 _______ 56 1894 _____47 1945 (70) ______ 2.62 2000 ___2.90 1992 

Jun 07 ___ 96 1925 ___ 76 2021 _______ 61 1891,1905_47 1879 (64)_______ 4.16 2013 ___4.29 2013 

Jun 08 ___ 95 1933 ___ 77 1984 _______ 56 1947 _____47 1932 ____________1.02 1900 ___4.64 2013 

Jun 09 ___ 97 1933 ___ 77 1984 _______ 57 1916 _____47 1980 (63) _______ 2.55 1989 ___2.63 1989b

Jun 10 ___ 96 2008 ___ 79 1984 _______ 55 1881 _____49 1881, 1972 ______ 2.07 1881 ___2.85 1881 

_____________________________________________________________________________ a 2007 2d (1.62+2.29)

_____________________________________________________________________________ b also 2.36" 2d 1897

 

Jun 11 ___ 95 1973 ___ 78 1984 _______ 57 1916 _____46 1972 (69) _______ 1.14 1911 ___2.09 1881 

Jun 12 ___ 93 1933,73,2017_76 2017 _____62 1924 _____48 1979 (69 11th) _ 2.18 1903,10_2.47 1910

___________________________________________________________________ also 2d(1903 2.26", 1911 2.04")

Jun 13 ___ 96 1961 ___ 77 2017 _______ 55 1982 _____51 1953 (63) _______ 1.71 1941 ___2.86 1998 

Jun 14 ___ 99 1956 ___ 78 2005 ______ 59 1907 _____49 1875 (64 13th) __ 2.54 1917a ___2.54 1917*

___________________________________________________________________________a also 2.38" 1896 (1d)

Jun 15 ___ 96 1891,1988,94_76 1899,1945,56_60 1916,71__48 1933 ____________ 1.13 1915 ___2.57 1917 

Jun 16 ___ 97 1891 ___ 78 1891 _______ 62 1965 _____52 1927 ____________ 1.31 1972 ___1.36 1985

Jun 17 ___ 96 1957 ___ 77 1957 _______ 61 1959 _____51 1926 ____________ 1.82 2011 ___1.82 2011*

Jun 18 ___ 95 1929 ___ 76 1957,2014 __63 1920 _____48 1950 (63 19th) __ 2.33 1871 b___2.33 1871*

__________________________________________________________________________ b also 2.30" 2009 (1d)

Jun 19 ___ 98 1994 ___ 76 1993 _______ 59 1935 _____52 1920 ____________ 1.93 1934 ___3.18 1967

__________________________________________________________________________________ 1967 (2.15+1.03)

Jun 20 ___ 98 1923 ___ 76 1892 _______ 59 1958 _____49 1914 ____________ 1.39 1919 ___1.93 1934**

 

Jun 21 ___ 97 1953,88 _ 79 2012 ______ 63 1958,2003_49 1897 (67)_______ 1.70 1902 ___1.70 1902*

Jun 22 ___ 98 1988 ___ 76 1941 _______ 62 1928,52 __ 52 1897, 1940 ______1.96 1887 ___2.54 1887 

Jun 23 ___ 96 1888 ___ 77 1888 _______ 59 1918 _____49 1918 ____________ 1.75 1887 ___3.71 1887 

Jun 24 ___ 96 1888 ___ 79 1909 _______ 59 1940 _____52 1881, 1932 ______ 1.46 1984 ___1.75 1887**

Jun 25 ___ 99 1943,52 _ 78 1909 ______ 63 1974 _____53 1873 (62 24th) ___ 1.19 1925 ___1.52 1984 

Jun 26 ___100 1952 ___ 81 1952 _______ 63 1893 _____56 1893, 1974,79 ___4.29 1884 ___4.74 1884 

Jun 27 ___101 1966 ___ 76 1943 _______ 61 1968 _____55 1940 ____________ 2.11 1932 ___4.29 1884**

Jun 28 ___ 96 1969,91 _ 77 1876,1943 __ 60 1938 ____54 1888,93,1915,95 _ 1.69 1938 ___2.76 1938 

Jun 29 ___101 1934 ___ 78 2021 _______ 65 1903 _____52 1888, 1919 ______ 2.57 1903 ___2.57 1903*

Jun 30 ___ 99 1964 ___ 79 1945,59 _____65 1967 _____ 53 1919 ____________ 3.07 1984 ___3.07 1984*

**2day rain records are for two days ending on date (e.g. June 30 record is June 29-30) ...

... records marked * have only rain on second day of 2d int (e.g. no rain fell June 29, 1984).

... records marked ** have only rain on previous day of 2d int (e.g. no rain fell June 27, 1884).

NOTE also ... monthly extreme values are in bold type. 

Temps in brackets with record low minima are that day's (or indicated day's) non-record low max value, gives an idea of whether the low max that actually occurred was a cloudier day than the day with a record low min. 

____________________________________

76F new high min June 7 2021 replaced 73F 1883 and 78F June 29 replaced 77F 1870. 

June 27 also __ 1.99"R 1919

[donsutherland1]

June got off to a chilly start. Outside New York City, lows in the 40s were commonplace. New York City saw the temperature dip to 50°. Danbury and White Plains both saw lows of 48°.

Tonight will be another unseasonably cool night. Some areas outside New York City could again see the mercury dip into the 40s. Tomorrow will turn milder with the temperature reaching or exceeding 70°. Afterward, a dramatic warmup will rapidly unfold.

Above normal temperatures will develop near midweek. The temperature could reach the hottest levels so far this year on Thursday. Parts of the region could reach 90° for their first time this year.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around May 21. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.08°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.08°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

The SOI was -1.83 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.308 today.

 

[Dark Star]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

if we put a station a little west of the airport it would be the hottest

Union?  No, Newark was always warmer...

[forkyfork]

4 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Union?  No, Newark was always warmer...

ewr is southeast of downtown newark and more vulnerable to the bay breeze

[lee59]

First 5 months of this year all chillier than last year, at Central Park, averaging some 3 degrees colder.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Roger Smith said:

<<<<< JUNE DAILY RECORDS NYC 1869-2024 >>>>>

_Date___Hi max __Hi min ______ Low max _ low min ________ 1d rain __ 2d rain**

Jun 01 ___ 96 1895 ___ 77 1895 _______ 58 1945,2015 _44 1945 _________ 2.60 1887 ___3.13 1940 

Jun 02 ___ 96 1895 ___ 76 1895, 1918__ 52 1907,46___48 1880,1907,29,45.46 _ 2.79 2006 ___3.78 2006 

Jun 03 ___ 95 1895 ___ 75 1943 _______ 53 1945 _____45 1929 (68) ______ 3.01 1996 ___3.55 2006 

Jun 04 ___ 99 1925 ___ 78 1943 _______ 52 1945 _____48 1926 (58 5th) __ 2.75 2003 ___3.91 2007a

Jun 05 ___ 99 1925 ___ 78 1925 _______ 55 1945 _____47 1945 ___________ 2.80 1992 ___2.80 1992*

Jun 06 ___ 98 1925 ___ 77 1925 _______ 56 1894 _____47 1945 (70) ______ 2.62 2000 ___2.90 1992 

Jun 07 ___ 96 1925 ___ 76 2021 _______ 61 1891,1905_47 1879 (64)_______ 4.16 2013 ___4.29 2013 

Jun 08 ___ 95 1933 ___ 77 1984 _______ 56 1947 _____47 1932 ____________1.02 1900 ___4.64 2013 

Jun 09 ___ 97 1933 ___ 77 1984 _______ 57 1916 _____47 1980 (63) _______ 2.55 1989 ___2.63 1989b

Jun 10 ___ 96 2008 ___ 79 1984 _______ 55 1881 _____49 1881, 1972 ______ 2.07 1881 ___2.85 1881 

_____________________________________________________________________________ a 2007 2d (1.62+2.29)

_____________________________________________________________________________ b also 2.36" 2d 1897

 

Jun 11 ___ 95 1973 ___ 78 1984 _______ 57 1916 _____46 1972 (69) _______ 1.14 1911 ___2.09 1881 

Jun 12 ___ 93 1933,73,2017_76 2017 _____62 1924 _____48 1979 (69 11th) _ 2.18 1903,10_2.47 1910

___________________________________________________________________ also 2d(1903 2.26", 1911 2.04")

Jun 13 ___ 96 1961 ___ 77 2017 _______ 55 1982 _____51 1953 (63) _______ 1.71 1941 ___2.86 1998 

Jun 14 ___ 99 1956 ___ 78 2005 ______ 59 1907 _____49 1875 (64 13th) __ 2.54 1917a ___2.54 1917*

___________________________________________________________________________a also 2.38" 1896 (1d)

Jun 15 ___ 96 1891,1988,94_76 1899,1945,56_60 1916,71__48 1933 ____________ 1.13 1915 ___2.57 1917 

Jun 16 ___ 97 1891 ___ 78 1891 _______ 62 1965 _____52 1927 ____________ 1.31 1972 ___1.36 1985

Jun 17 ___ 96 1957 ___ 77 1957 _______ 61 1959 _____51 1926 ____________ 1.82 2011 ___1.82 2011*

Jun 18 ___ 95 1929 ___ 76 1957,2014 __63 1920 _____48 1950 (63 19th) __ 2.33 1871 b___2.33 1871*

__________________________________________________________________________ b also 2.30" 2009 (1d)

Jun 19 ___ 98 1994 ___ 76 1993 _______ 59 1935 _____52 1920 ____________ 1.93 1934 ___3.18 1967

__________________________________________________________________________________ 1967 (2.15+1.03)

Jun 20 ___ 98 1923 ___ 76 1892 _______ 59 1958 _____49 1914 ____________ 1.39 1919 ___1.93 1934**

 

Jun 21 ___ 97 1953,88 _ 79 2012 ______ 63 1958,2003_49 1897 (67)_______ 1.70 1902 ___1.70 1902*

Jun 22 ___ 98 1988 ___ 76 1941 _______ 62 1928,52 __ 52 1897, 1940 ______1.96 1887 ___2.54 1887 

Jun 23 ___ 96 1888 ___ 77 1888 _______ 59 1918 _____49 1918 ____________ 1.75 1887 ___3.71 1887 

Jun 24 ___ 96 1888 ___ 79 1909 _______ 59 1940 _____52 1881, 1932 ______ 1.46 1984 ___1.75 1887**

Jun 25 ___ 99 1943,52 _ 78 1909 ______ 63 1974 _____53 1873 (62 24th) ___ 1.19 1925 ___1.52 1984 

Jun 26 ___100 1952 ___ 81 1952 _______ 63 1893 _____56 1893, 1974,79 ___4.29 1884 ___4.74 1884 

Jun 27 ___101 1966 ___ 76 1943 _______ 61 1968 _____55 1940 ____________ 2.11 1932 ___4.29 1884**

Jun 28 ___ 96 1969,91 _ 77 1876,1943 __ 60 1938 ____54 1888,93,1915,95 _ 1.69 1938 ___2.76 1938 

Jun 29 ___101 1934 ___ 78 2021 _______ 65 1903 _____52 1888, 1919 ______ 2.57 1903 ___2.57 1903*

Jun 30 ___ 99 1964 ___ 79 1945,59 _____65 1967 _____ 53 1919 ____________ 3.07 1984 ___3.07 1984*

**2day rain records are for two days ending on date (e.g. June 30 record is June 29-30) ...

... records marked * have only rain on second day of 2d int (e.g. no rain fell June 29, 1984).

... records marked ** have only rain on previous day of 2d int (e.g. no rain fell June 27, 1884).

NOTE also ... monthly extreme values are in bold type. 

Temps in brackets with record low minima are that day's (or indicated day's) non-record low max value, gives an idea of whether the low max that actually occurred was a cloudier day than the day with a record low min. 

____________________________________

76F new high min June 7 2021 replaced 73F 1883 and 78F June 29 replaced 77F 1870. 

June 27 also __ 1.99"R 1919

Jun 27 ___101 1966

 

this was one special summer, and the hottest was yet to come....

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, forkyfork said:

if we put a station a little west of the airport it would be the hottest

Linden? KLDJ I think?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

June got off to a chilly start. Outside New York City, lows in the 40s were commonplace. New York City saw the temperature dip to 50°. Danbury and White Plains both saw lows of 48°.

Tonight will be another unseasonably cool night. Some areas outside New York City could again see the mercury dip into the 40s. Tomorrow will turn milder with the temperature reaching or exceeding 70°. Afterward, a dramatic warmup will rapidly unfold.

Above normal temperatures will develop near midweek. The temperature could reach the hottest levels so far this year on Thursday. Parts of the region could reach 90° for their first time this year.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around May 21. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.08°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.08°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

The SOI was -1.83 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.308 today.

 

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?

 

[Sundog]

20 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?

 

Latest 40s is an interesting stat. I'd like to know that too. 

I remember we got into the low 50s in early July in NYC in 2001. 

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Latest 40s is an interesting stat. I'd like to know that too. 

I remember we got into the low 50s in early July in NYC in 2001. 

wow that must have been something!

I remember an upper 40s (49) sometime in the mid-late 80s in mid August.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  It was my first time staying up all night and I stayed awake all night and I laid down in my driveway for 4 straight nights to see the Perseids.  It turned out to be four of the clearest, crispest low humidity nights that August has EVER seen.  It was my first Perseids and it did not disappoint-- I even saw a giant fireball just before sunrise a few minutes before I was going to go in to go to sleep!  Unfortunately that kind of deep sky with chilly weather with low humidity very rarely ever happened again in August, maybe only once or twice in the last 40 years.  I think it was August 1987 if I remember correctly. Could have been August 1986 too though.

 

 

[SACRUS]

32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?

 

6/4/2023

LGA: 70 / 51
JFK:  70 / 49
NYC: 69/49
 

[WE GOT HIM]

Wow

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

6/4/2023

LGA: 70 / 51
JFK:  70 / 49
NYC: 69/49
 

getting a high in the 60s with sunshine in June is pretty crazy too!

[donsutherland1]

38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?

 

Here's the data:

[SACRUS]

46 minutes ago, lee59 said:

First 5 months of this year all chillier than last year, at Central Park, averaging some 3 degrees colder.

 

NYC

MONTH   2024  ------   2025

JAN:   +3.3  --------  -2.5
Feb:    +4.1 ---------  -.08
March:  +5.2 --------  +4.0
April:   +1.9 ---------   +1.6
May:  +1.8  ----------   -0.9
 

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, donsutherland1 said:

Here's the data:

wild June 1980 for JFK for what happened to be one of our hottest summers and the hottest July-August couplet (at least at NYC).

wow the one in June 1918 was actually on the longest day of the year and during actual summer!

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow that must have been something!

I remember an upper 40s (49) sometime in the mid-late 80s in mid August.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  It was my first time staying up all night and I stayed awake all night and I laid down in my driveway for 4 straight nights to see the Perseids.  It turned out to be four of the clearest, crispest low humidity nights that August has EVER seen.  It was my first Perseids and it did not disappoint-- I even saw a giant fireball just before sunrise a few minutes before I was going to go in to go to sleep!  Unfortunately that kind of deep sky with chilly weather with low humidity very rarely ever happened again in August, maybe only once or twice in the last 40 years.  I think it was August 1987 if I remember correctly. Could have been August 1986 too though.

 

 

I remember it clearly because my flight to Greece was cancelled the night of the cold front. And since the flight was cancelled late, like near midnight even though it was supposed to depart around 6PM, as we were driving home to depart again the next day, the cold front had already come through and there was a very strong, cool, dry wind outside. Very impressive CAA for that time of year. 

I just looked it up actually and it was mid 50s not low 50s. 

There was another year where I can remember the low being 53 degrees I think. 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC

MONTH   2024  ------   2025

JAN:   +3.3  --------  -2.5
Feb:    +4.1 ---------  -.08
March:  +5.2 --------  +4.0
April:   +1.9 ---------   +1.6
May:  +1.8  ----------   -0.9
 

 

March should have an asterisk, it was absolutely baking last year lol

February 2025 is -0.8?

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

I remember it clearly because my flight to Greece was cancelled the night of the cold front. And since the flight was cancelled late, like near midnight even though it was supposed to depart around 6PM, as we were driving home to depart again the next day, the cold front had already come through and there was a very strong, cool, dry wind outside. Very impressive CAA for that time of year. 

I just looked it up actually and it was mid 50s not low 50s. 

There was another year where I can remember the low being 53 degrees I think. 

wow were you sad to go to Greece during such delightful weather?

Based on my past experiences in Greece I would think you weren't sad lol

[lee59]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC

MONTH   2024  ------   2025

JAN:   +3.3  --------  -2.5
Feb:    +4.1 ---------  -.08
March:  +5.2 --------  +4.0
April:   +1.9 ---------   +1.6
May:  +1.8  ----------   -0.9
 

 

It was an easy comparison to beat, at least January and February were more like winter.

[Sundog]

23 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow were you sad to go to Greece during such delightful weather?

Based on my past experiences in Greece I would think you weren't sad lol

Greece is mostly a dry heat, I can deal with it since they usually also have a nice breeze and temps drop decently at night. Plus there's 8 million gorgeous beaches to go to relax. 

90 to 95 degrees during the day is no big deal when the dewpoints stay low, there's a good breeze and temps drop nicely at sundown. 

[WE GOT HIM]

4 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Greece is mostly a dry heat, I can deal with it since they usually also have a nice breeze and temps drop decently at night. Plus there's 8 million gorgeous beaches to go to relax. 

90 to 95 degrees during the day is no big deal when the dewpoints stay low, there's a good breeze and temps drop nicely at sundown. 

I was in Croatia and it was the same

[WestBabylonWeather]

KP currently shot up to 7

we might pull it off 

[wdrag]

YES Aurora possible, imo best time to view if we get it 11P-430A when skies hopefully clear an smoke drifts to the east.  As others noted camera picks up what the eye wont.