LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Park was 2-4 cooler the prior 3 days and the coolest in the region 2 of those days. Another 1 -2 inches of rain should add to the overgrowth and mute any 90 degree readings there till mid June while some other site get there 6/5 - 6/15. We also have to remember that it's a park and park temperature data is not comparable to airport temperature data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 97 (1965) NYC: 96 (1880) record early season heatwave continued on LGA: 92 (1965) JFK: 86 (1985) Lows: EWR: 43 (1967) NYC: 41 (1961) LGA: 41 (1961) JFK: 42 (1961) Historical: 1771: In Virginia, a wall of water came roaring down the James River Valley following ten to twelve days of intense rain. As water swept through Richmond, buildings, boats, animals, and vegetation were lost. About one hundred fifty people were killed as the River reached a flood stage of forty-five feet above normal. A monument to the flood was inscribed by Ryland Randolph, of Curles, in 1771-72: " ... all the great rivers of this country were swept by inundations never before experienced which changed the face of nature and left traces of violence that will remain for ages." 1826: A tremendous hail storm struck the eastern shore of Maryland during the evening damaging wheat and vegetable crops from Hillsborough in Caroline County to Easton in Talbot County. One person was killed. Between the Severn and Patapsco Rivers, hail the size of eggs fell. Across the bay in Calvert County, a man was killed by hail. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1896 - A massive tornado struck Saint Louis, MO, killing 306 persons and causing thirteen million dollars damage. The tornado path was short, but cut across a densely populated area. It touched down six miles west of Eads Bridge in Saint Louis and widened to a mile as it crossed into East Saint Louis. The tornado was the most destructive of record in the U.S. up until that time. It pierced a five-eighths inch thick iron sheet with a two by four inch pine plank. A brilliant display of lightning accompanied the storm. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1973: A large F4 tornado cut a 135-mile path across central Alabama. Hardest hit was the town of Brent where five people perished and 90% of the town was demolished. Seven people died along the path of the twister. Cancelled checks from Greensboro, AL were found at Gadsden, AL, over 100 miles away. Another killer tornado struck Centerpoint on the northeast side of Birmingham, killing one person. One person was killed and 35 people were injured when an F3 tornado stormed across Jones County, Mississippi. Another 3 people were injured when an F2 tornado swept across Clarke County. A second F2 tornado also moved across Scott County that evening. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1987 - Severe thunderstorms in West Texas produced baseball size hail at Crane, hail up to three and a half inches in diameter at Post, and grapefruit size hail south of Midland. Five days of flooding commenced in Oklahoma. Thunderstorms produced 7 to 9 inches of rain in central Oklahoma. Oklahoma City reported 4.33 inches of rain in six hours. Up to six inches of rain caused flooding in north central Texas. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Sunny and warm weather prevailed across much of the nation to kick off the Memorial Day weekend. Afternoon thunderstorms in southern Florida caused the mercury at Miami to dip to a record low reading of 69 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Unseasonably hot weather prevailed in the southeastern U.S. Ten cities reported record high temperatures for the date as readings soared into the 90s. Lakeland, FL, reported a record high of 99 degrees, and Biloxi, MS, reported a temperature of 90 degrees along with a relative humidity of 75 percent. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from north central Texas to the Central Gulf Coast Region. Severe thunderstorms spawned four tornadoes, and there were eighty-one reports of large hail or damaging winds. Late afternoon thunderstorms over southeast Louisiana produced high winds which injured twenty-seven persons at an outdoor music concert in Baton Rouge, and high winds which gusted to 78 mph at the Lake Ponchartrain Causeway. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1997: An F5 tornado killed 27 people in Jarrell, Texas. Although tornado warnings were issued 30 minutes in advance and local sirens were sounded, there were few places to go for safety. Most homes were on slabs, with no basements. Houses were swept clean off their foundations, with little debris left behind. Total damage was $20 million. The same thunderstorm complex produced a wind gust to 122 mph at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio. 2001: This day brought one of the most destructive and widespread windstorms to much of Oklahoma and north Texas in recent memory. These storms left one person dead, 4 injured, 160,000 people without power and over $350 million dollars in damage in Oklahoma alone. Several non-tornadic wind reports in excess of 100 mph were recorded, and it took nearly a week to restore power to all of the affected areas NYC: 96 (1880) record early season heatwave continued on These early era heatwaves don't get talked about enough. We also had a massive 10 day heatwave in 1896. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sundog said: Central Park temps mimic an ocean facing beach town post leaf-out. I think @FPizz is ball busting most of the time regarding this issue. when you have offshore winds JFK will often be several degrees hotter than Central Park. It's one reason why I love the south shore, we always heat up more quickly than other areas, even more than Newark, on an offshore wind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, jm1220 said: Lightning is absolutely constant. Crazy roar. the only lightning I ever want to see is ball lightning. still mostly unexplained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, FPizz said: It was joke, but no one here can take it when the temp actually lines up with other spots for 95% of the calendar days. Too easy. I also noticed there are days when LGA is colder than JFK in the spring and summer. I enjoy those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: when you have offshore winds JFK will often be several degrees hotter than Central Park. It's one reason why I love the south shore, we always heat up more quickly than other areas, even more than Newark, on an offshore wind. On average JFK is a lot cooler than NYC because of its south shore-ish location. So when Central Park has temperatures comparable to a beach location you know you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I also noticed there are days when LGA is colder than JFK in the spring and summer. I enjoy those days. LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 16 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: We also have to remember that it's a park and park temperature data is not comparable to airport temperature data. But does the park represent the concrete heat jungle of Manhattan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Sundog said: LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. South winds are the bane of my existence. I would put up a giant wind wall along the beach if I could to keep the crap sea air away. Check out July 2010 when JFK exceeded 100 and LGA did not. I only want west, north and northwest winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Dark Star said: But does the park represent the concrete heat jungle of Manhattan? No it doesn't There's another ASOS somewhere in Manhattan if I remember correctly, at the heliport, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Sundog said: LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. It's actually a give and take, when JFK is cooler than LGA the humidity is much higher. It's never a free lunch. I would much rather have 100 degrees with a 60 dew point than 80 degrees with a 75 dew point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Sundog said: On average JFK is a lot cooler than NYC because of its south shore-ish location. So when Central Park has temperatures comparable to a beach location you know you have a problem. The main problem is measuring temperatures in a park. New York City is nothing like a park and the airports are more representative. If it was up to me, we'd use temperature data from downtown somewhere, there is an ASOS near the heliport. I wouldn't say JFK is a lot cooler, it really depends on wind direction. If you go further out on long island, like the Hamptons, they are a lot cooler, but where we are in SW Nassau it's not a lot cooler because we heat up faster than the city in the mornings and the wind has a much shorter trajectory over water than it does in places farther east. Trust me, I live here and it's not a lot cooler than the city, unless you're talking about the temperatures near the subway entrances lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport/highest-temperatures 19 times 100 or higher, honorable mention to the two back to back 99 readings in July 2019 which had the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK (117). Rank Temperature Date 1 104 °F July 3, 1966 2 103 °F July 22, 2011 3 102 °F July 23, 2011 3 102 °F July 5, 1999 3 102 °F July 1, 1963 6 101 °F July 6, 2010 6 101 °F July 4, 2010 6 101 °F July 9, 1993 6 101 °F July 4, 1966 6 101 °F July 2, 1966 6 101 °F July 22, 1957 6 101 °F August 27, 1948 13 100 °F July 18, 2013 13 100 °F July 7, 2010 13 100 °F July 10, 1993 13 100 °F August 20, 1983 13 100 °F July 16, 1983 13 100 °F July 23, 1972 13 100 °F August 26, 1948 20 99 °F July 21, 2019 20 99 °F July 20, 2019 20 99 °F July 7, 2012 20 99 °F August 3, 2006 20 99 °F July 29, 2002 20 99 °F July 4, 2002 20 99 °F August 8, 2001 20 99 °F July 6, 1999 20 99 °F July 21, 1991 20 99 °F July 7, 1986 20 99 °F July 15, 1983 20 99 °F July 23, 1978 20 99 °F May 29, 1969 20 99 °F June 30, 1964 20 99 °F June 29, 1959 20 99 °F August 20, 1955 20 99 °F June 26, 1952 20 99 °F August 11, 1949 20 99 °F June 26, 1949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago wow 19 recorded 99 degree readings at JFK (including some in May and June) is wild. This has the top 10 at JFK (but leaves some out). https://recordtemps.in/new-york-kennedy-airport-new-york 10 highest recorded temperatures at New York-Kennedy Airport Area, New York (JFKthr) 07-03-1966: 104°F 07-22-2011: 103°F 07-01-1963: 102°F 07-05-1999: 102°F 07-23-2011: 102°F 07-02-1966: 101°F 07-04-2010: 101°F 07-06-2010: 101°F 07-09-1993: 101°F 08-27-1948: 101°F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport/highest-temperatures 19 times 100 or higher, honorable mention to the two back to back 99 readings in July 2019 which had the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK Rank Temperature Date 1 104 °F July 3, 1966 2 103 °F July 22, 2011 3 102 °F July 23, 2011 3 102 °F July 5, 1999 3 102 °F July 1, 1963 6 101 °F July 6, 2010 6 101 °F July 4, 2010 6 101 °F July 9, 1993 6 101 °F July 4, 1966 6 101 °F July 2, 1966 6 101 °F July 22, 1957 6 101 °F August 27, 1948 13 100 °F July 18, 2013 13 100 °F July 7, 2010 13 100 °F July 10, 1993 13 100 °F August 20, 1983 13 100 °F July 16, 1983 13 100 °F July 23, 1972 13 100 °F August 26, 1948 20 99 °F July 21, 2019 20 99 °F July 20, 2019 20 99 °F July 7, 2012 20 99 °F August 3, 2006 20 99 °F July 29, 2002 20 99 °F July 4, 2002 20 99 °F August 8, 2001 20 99 °F July 6, 1999 20 99 °F July 21, 1991 20 99 °F July 7, 1986 20 99 °F July 15, 1983 20 99 °F July 23, 1978 20 99 °F May 29, 1969 20 99 °F June 30, 1964 20 99 °F June 29, 1959 20 99 °F August 20, 1955 20 99 °F June 26, 1952 20 99 °F August 11, 1949 20 99 °F June 26, 1949 Some noted 100+ streaks were the three 100+ temperatures in 2010 (July 4,6,7-- 101, 101, 100), back to back in 2011 (July 22 and 23-- 103, 102), 1993 (July 9,10-- 101, 100), three straight in 1966 (July 2,3,4-- 101,104*,101) in 1983 we had 2 100 degree readings, once in July (16) and August (20) and the earliest 100 degree readings recorded were in the first year of measurement (1948) in late August (26,27-- 100, 101). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I love this extreme weather website, the data is easier to access and much better organized than the NWS site. https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport More JFK Airport Weather Records 1948–2025 Highest daily low 82 °F August 14, 2016 Lowest daily high 8 °F January 17, 1977 Greatest daily range(Difference of high and low) 47 °F December 23, 2022 Greatest difference in daily high over two conscutive days 40 °F Dec 23–24, 2022 Most daily precipitation 8.1 inches September 29, 2023 Most monthly precipitation 17.2 inches August 2011 Most yearly precipitation 59.1 inches 1983 Most yearly days with precipitation 156 2018 Earliest snow in season October 26 1962 Latest snow in season April 19 1983 Most daily snow 30.3 inches January 23, 2016 Most monthly snow 32.1 inches February 2003 Most yearly snow 61.9 inches 2003 Most snow in a winter 69.0 inches 1995–1996 Greatest snow accumulation 28.0 inches January 24, 2016 Earliest freeze October 19 1976 Earliest day ≥ 80 °F March 13 1990 Earliest day ≥ 90 °F April 12 1977 Latest freeze April 14 1950 Latest day ≥ 80 °F November 7 2022 Latest day ≥ 90 °F October 8 2007 Most days in a year < 0 °F 1 1985 Most days in a year < 32 °F 91 1967 Most days in a year ≥ 80 °F 99 2015 Most days in a year ≥ 90 °F 32 2010 Most days in a year ≥ 100 °F 3 2010 JFK Airport Weather Streaks Most consecutive days... With precipitation 14 days Apr 24 – May 7, 2019 Without precipitation 37 days May 30 – Jul 5, 1949 With snow 5 days Feb 28 – Mar 4, 2019 High temperature at or below freezing 16 days Jan 19 – Feb 3, 1961 High temperature ≥ 80 °F 55 days Jul 17 – Sep 9, 2015 High temperature ≥ 90 °F 7 days Jul 19–25, 1972 High temperature ≥ 100 °F 3 days Jul 2–4, 1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Interesting tidbits based on the above data.... 2019 (which I only remember for the heat in July), had 5 straight days of measurable snow from late February to early March followed by 14 straight days of rainfall from late April to early May. Then later in July it had the aforementioned back to back 99 degree days and the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK (back to back 117)! Also June 1949 had 0 precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Up to 72 with in between sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 12z ICON has a little powerhouse over our area: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Needed that in January 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Speaking of JFK, I remember when it hit 99 under fully overcast skies with a W or NW wind. I don’t remember what year that was but it was in the early 2010’s when I still lived in Queens, it felt so weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Cfa said: Speaking of JFK, I remember when it hit 99 under fully overcast skies with a W or NW wind. I don’t remember what year that was but it was in the early 2010’s when I still lived in Queens, it felt so weird. So many 99 degree days looks really weird. There were as many 99 degree days (19) as all the 100-104 degree days combined (also 19) !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 78 and humid feeling. Lots of puffy clouds under higher level haze looking clouds. I can't remember the names anymore lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Up to 75 with sun would have hit 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, Sundog said: Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area WPC has beefed up totals covering the next 7 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 36 minutes ago, Sundog said: Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area rain is so boring. the euro was wrong all winter so that trend would not be that hard to believe now either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Up to 75 with sun would have hit 80. we'll get plenty of that to open up June. even the TV mets are banging the drums for a hot start to June now. the three month JJA forecast is out and it calls for hot weather on both the east and west coast with milder weather in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago looks like my hoodie wearing may come to a abrupt end next week or maybe i will just leave the hoodie unzipped instead something to ponder on these next few days.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18z NAM is MUCH wetter for he tristate compared to 12z for the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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