Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: You are correct!! As you know I am a bit of a data and weather weenie and I put it there precisely to prove that a poorly sited weather station and climate data can make an approximate 1 degree difference in average temperature. But it also clearly proves that my other 2 stations sited correctly according to NWS standards are accurate for a rural location in the county I live in. I don't how hard they (stations) are to move around but maybe place them (or 1 of them) in different locations each year and see if you record different data from years past? If it's a PITA, forget about it. I was never into weather stations because I know there are so many variables in placement which I don't know. I just get my Temp/DP etc from Accu Weather and a couple other sites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Decent cell moving up.....I may get nailed. 70F/DP 68F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: Decent cell moving up.....I may get nailed. 70F/DP 68F Under a severe tstorm warning here from that, lots of lightning, wind picking up. Nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: Decent cell moving up.....I may get nailed. 70F/DP 68F Nice lighting show off to the south. Let’s see what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Got it pretty Good here in Media Delaware County lots of elevated lightning not really any strikes. 0.59" in 17 minutes, 40-50 mph winds, pea size hail, thunder not too loud strange one. Lights flickered but power didn't go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, JTA66 said: Nice lighting show off to the south. Let’s see what it does. Hearing thunder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Pouring in KOP per NBC10 camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Some nice deep baritone rolling thunder but looks like the good stuff will be E although I'll pick up some rain... 69F/DP 67F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Another batch moving up. Like it to stop by morning...then mow mid day then go through this whole song and dance tomorrow afternoon again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 High for the day yesterday was 95 here. Picked up 0.95" of rain for the day yesterday Current temp 71/DP 70/RH 99% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Had the warning overnight and took a screenshot of that incoming convective cluster before it finally hit. Got lots of thunder and lightning out of it but only netted 0.37" of rain (although since the last rain that I had IMBY was 8/30, I'll take it). Currently a steamy-window 68 with dp 68, and low stratus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 69F/DP still sucks at 68F.....some fog, low clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 The mercury plummeted down to 68F overnight. Who says it can’t get cold anymore? 72F/DP 70F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 Brutal out there this morning. Current temp 82/DP 76/RH 82% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Birds~69 said: I don't how hard they (stations) are to move around but maybe place them (or 1 of them) in different locations each year and see if you record different data from years past? If it's a PITA, forget about it. I was never into weather stations because I know there are so many variables in placement which I don't know. I just get my Temp/DP etc from Accu Weather and a couple other sites... I have moved the ambient around from more shaded spots to the south hill most sun exposed location with no real variations...clearly the rooftop station should always be warmest...and not valid - the others are right in line with each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 In East Nantmeal we picked up 0.08" of rain so far since last night. It appears rain chances will be ramping up across the County later today through Sunday night. We do need the rain as we are now over 4 inches below our normal year to date rainfall through yesterday. Records for today: High 94 (1959) / Low 38 (1975) / Rain 2.15" (1972) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Birds~69 said: They (manufacture) don't recommend placing it on the roof....do they? Seems like a horrible location especially if your roof is black. 70F/DP 67F (coming down) Stuff moving up from the S but may end up W of me again.... Correct I just wanted to see how much of a difference a poorly sited station can make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JTA66 said: The mercury plummeted down to 68F overnight. Who says it can’t get cold anymore? 72F/DP 70F I store mine in the fridge, so it's always around 40F. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Paul has screamed about the compatibility of his station with others historically. He's pressed me to prove him wrong. Well, here it is: The closest station to him, Coatesville 2W, overlaps for 4 years from 2004-2007. I think those who've paid attention to him realize he probably runs cold for highs. So here's the average high temperature differences from Coatesville to his station during those 4 years, and they make perfect sense given his shady site. Jan -0.75 Feb -0.45 Mar -0.875 Apr -0.925 May -2.475 Jun -3.15 Jul -3.325 Aug -3.35 Sep -3.05 Oct -2.475 Nov -1.175 Dec -0.825 Ann -1.90208 That pretty much perfectly fits a curve of tree canopy percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Sorry Ray here is the actual average temperature comparison for the above - can't get any more exact than this!! Coatesville 2W = 52.672 East Nantmeal = 52.673 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Paul, the data clearly shows yours highs have a severe cold bias this time of year. If you don’t like it, frankly it sucks to be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, famartin said: Paul, the data clearly shows yours highs have a severe cold bias this time of year. If you don’t like it, frankly it sucks to be you. Sigh ..Ray why the anger and the name calling. No place for that here. While I am far from a statistical genius it really is not difficult to see that those 2 data points with more than 1500 data points (days) can't be that incredibly close by chance....hence why they are considered to be statistically equivalent. They just cannot be that close by chance Ray....it just is what it is! And it most certainly does NOT suck to me LOL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: Sigh ..Ray why the anger and the name calling. No place for that here. While I am far from a statistical genius it really is not difficult to see that those 2 data points with more than 1500 data points (days) can't be that incredibly close by chance....hence why they are considered to be statistically equivalent. They just cannot be that close by chance Ray....it just is what it is! And it most certainly does NOT suck to me LOL!!!! Paul… you’re fighting this is tiresome, that’s why the “name calling”. Your data is simply garbage, like most of your related “climate change” posts. I’ve proven that pretty well just now. But obviously you have an agenda. Obviously if your a rich snob in east nantmeal then I guess overall, it doesn’t suck to be you, but your numbers are trash. Too bad, so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, famartin said: Paul… you’re fighting this is tiresome, that’s why the “name calling”. Your data is simply garbage, like most of your related “climate change” posts. I’ve proven that pretty well just now. But obviously you have an agenda. Obviously if your a rich snob in east nantmeal then I guess overall, it doesn’t suck to be you, but your numbers are trash. Too bad, so sad. I am so sad you are such an angry man Ray...i have never and would never call you any names like you have devolved too above....I can't change the numerical facts as presented above....facts and actual data as I will always present is all we have. Take care Ray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 By the way I sincerely apologize for Ray's and my posts today. I had asked him to move this conversation out of this forum last evening. We started a discussion there and I thought we agreed to keep it there. Sadly for some reason Ray felt the need to bring it back here and gum up this forum with name calling etc. Apologies again I will keep my posts as always to simple weather facts and observations. Thanks to all for your understanding!! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Here's the raw high temp numbers. Take all of Paul's highs this time of year and add 3-4 to get something realistic: Jan Jan Feb Feb Mar Mar Apr Apr May May Jun Jun Jul Jul Aug Aug Sep Sep Oct Oct Nov Nov Dec Dec Ann Ann Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal Coatesville E Nantmeal 2004 29.9 29.6 40.4 39.9 51.8 50.9 62.4 61.9 77.4 75.1 79.2 76.1 82.3 78.5 81.8 78 77.1 73.5 62.4 59.4 54.8 53.7 43.4 42.4 61.90833333 59.9166667 2005 36.3 35.7 41.6 41.1 45.2 44.7 65.4 64.6 69.2 66.9 83 80.3 86.3 82.9 85.8 82.3 81.5 81 63.7 63.1 57 56.2 38.2 37.8 62.76666667 61.3833333 2006 47 46.2 41 40.7 51.9 50.8 66 64.7 73.9 71.2 80.2 76.9 87.2 84.1 85 81.8 73.1 69.3 64 61 56.8 55.9 49.8 49 64.65833333 62.6333333 2007 43.7 42.4 32.6 32.1 51.8 50.8 58.5 57.4 76.9 74.3 81.9 78.4 83.8 80.8 83.4 80.5 80.1 75.8 71.5 68.2 51.5 49.6 40.6 39.5 63.025 60.8166667 39.225 38.475 38.9 38.45 50.175 49.3 63.075 62.15 74.35 71.875 81.075 77.925 84.9 81.575 84 80.65 77.95 74.9 65.4 62.925 55.025 53.85 43 42.175 63.08958333 61.1875 -0.75 -0.45 -0.875 -0.925 -2.475 -3.15 -3.325 -3.35 -3.05 -2.475 -1.175 -0.825 -1.90208333 -2.475 -1.175 -0.825 -1.90208 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 This one is easier to read. Again, this is raw high temps. 2004 2005 2006 2007 Difference Jan Coatesville 29.9 36.3 47 43.7 39.225 Jan E Nantmeal 29.6 35.7 46.2 42.4 38.475 -0.75 Feb Coatesville 40.4 41.6 41 32.6 38.9 Feb E Nantmeal 39.9 41.1 40.7 32.1 38.45 -0.45 Mar Coatesville 51.8 45.2 51.9 51.8 50.175 Mar E Nantmeal 50.9 44.7 50.8 50.8 49.3 -0.875 Apr Coatesville 62.4 65.4 66 58.5 63.075 Apr E Nantmeal 61.9 64.6 64.7 57.4 62.15 -0.925 May Coatesville 77.4 69.2 73.9 76.9 74.35 May E Nantmeal 75.1 66.9 71.2 74.3 71.875 -2.475 Jun Coatesville 79.2 83 80.2 81.9 81.075 Jun E Nantmeal 76.1 80.3 76.9 78.4 77.925 -3.15 Jul Coatesville 82.3 86.3 87.2 83.8 84.9 Jul E Nantmeal 78.5 82.9 84.1 80.8 81.575 -3.325 Aug Coatesville 81.8 85.8 85 83.4 84 Aug E Nantmeal 78 82.3 81.8 80.5 80.65 -3.35 Sep Coatesville 77.1 81.5 73.1 80.1 77.95 Sep E Nantmeal 73.5 81 69.3 75.8 74.9 -3.05 Oct Coatesville 62.4 63.7 64 71.5 65.4 Oct E Nantmeal 59.4 63.1 61 68.2 62.925 -2.475 Nov Coatesville 54.8 57 56.8 51.5 55.025 Nov E Nantmeal 53.7 56.2 55.9 49.6 53.85 -1.175 Dec Coatesville 43.4 38.2 49.8 40.6 43 Dec E Nantmeal 42.4 37.8 49 39.5 42.175 -0.825 Ann Coatesville 61.90833333 62.76666667 64.65833333 63.025 63.08958333 Ann E Nantmeal 59.91666667 61.38333333 62.63333333 60.81666667 61.1875 -1.902083333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Man, did I sweat my balls off (DP high) mowing/trimming/taking out/picking up trash/washed car and put on new wiper blades/checked fluids as well. I'm done... 81F/DP 72F Ted Striker! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 For Ray the actual average temperatures by month - who would have thought 6 months a bit warmer at Coatesville and 6 months cooler...a solid highly statistically data set!!- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ChescoWx said: By the way I sincerely apologize for Ray's and my posts today. I had asked him to move this conversation out of this forum last evening. We started a discussion there and I thought we agreed to keep it there. Sadly for some reason Ray felt the need to bring it back here and gum up this forum with name calling etc. Apologies again I will keep my posts as always to simple weather facts and observations. Thanks to all for your understanding!! Paul Not a problem, don't worry. 83F/That damn DP, 73F Line forming: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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