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East coast storm targets our subforum Noon Sunday-3PM Monday 1/16-17/22 with significant impact potential for heavy snow/heavy rain, a period of gusts 45-60 MPH along the coast with possible coastal flooding Monday morning high tide.


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11 minutes ago, wdrag said:

I think there is documentation that near 70 MPH occurred on e LI and 60-65 MPH apparently occurred near the ridges of  NYS/CT/MA border.

Also added wrap up event data through 7AM Monday the 17th.

NYC CP 0.8", PHL 0.7" snowfall. More data is appended. Click to enable more clarity and use the legend to your advantage. Thanks. 

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1 hour ago, wdrag said:

Also added wrap up event data through 7AM Monday the 17th.

NYC CP 0.8", PHL 0.7" snowfall. More data is appended. Click to enable more clarity and use the legend to your advantage. Thanks. 

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Walt, is that a report of 0.5" at JFK? I didn't see a single snowflake here before the snow showers that happened earlier tonight.

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On 1/14/2022 at 8:08 AM, NittanyWx said:

Unless things change drastically everyone is changing over within 3 hours of precip onset.  It is a very, very brief window it can snow here before the column warms.  GFS this AM has the 0C 850 isotherm north of 287 by between 11pm and 12 AM Monday. 

 

You'd need the entire mid-level low structure shifted about 150-200 miles to make this work.

Snowed moderately at my location in SE Rockland County from 8pm to 1am. Finished with about 3” before the changeover. It thumped for a good 3 hours.

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On 1/16/2022 at 4:05 AM, LibertyBell said:

the ironic thing is if you go by the snowfall totals from 1973-74 it doesn't stand out, but going by local reports, it was pretty good compared to the era.

Quite true. It was a strong La Niña. The winters before, 1971-2 and 1972-3 were notoriously "unsnowy." The numbers look better for 1971-2 but almost all were front loaders with rain washaways. 1974-5 had a 10" storm in early February and a surprise 6" in late March with a forecast changeover that largely busted. 1975-6, 1976-7 and  1979-80 were total busts. The 1980's had similar patterns. It wasn't really until "the storm of the century" in mid-March 1993 did we start getting decent winters. 1993-4 and 1995-6 were historic. From then on, every few winters were decent. But the 1970s and 1980s; the less said about them the better.

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13 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

Snowed moderately at my location in SE Rockland County from 8pm to 1am. Finished with about 3” before the changeover. It thumped for a good 3 hours.

So not the 12 hours of snow 15 miles inland then?

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11 hours ago, JBG said:

Quite true. It was a strong La Niña. The winters before, 1971-2 and 1972-3 were notoriously "unsnowy." The numbers look better for 1971-2 but almost all were front loaders with rain washaways. 1974-5 had a 10" storm in early February and a surprise 6" in late March with a forecast changeover that largely busted. 1975-6, 1976-7 and  1979-80 were total busts. The 1980's had similar patterns. It wasn't really until "the storm of the century" in mid-March 1993 did we start getting decent winters. 1993-4 and 1995-6 were historic. From then on, every few winters were decent. But the 1970s and 1980s; the less said about them the better.

1973-74 and 1974-75 seem to be okay but outside of those, some very lackluster winters (and lackluster tropical seasons too).

 

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On 1/19/2022 at 7:16 AM, LibertyBell said:

1973-74 and 1974-75 seem to be okay but outside of those, some very lackluster winters (and lackluster tropical seasons too).

 

There was nothing at all lackluster about 1977-8 (HECS in early February and important event in late January) or 1978-9 (one of the biggest cold waves in history capped off by a HECS on President's Day 1979, usually known as PD I, not be be confused with PD II in 2003). Even 1970-1 had a decent event New Year's Eve, and 1971-2 had a storm that gave mixed precip to NYC but crushed the Appalachians. Ithaca had its all-time record of 26" (I think) inches. All those aside, aside from notable cold waves in January 1970, January 1971, and December 1976-January 1977 the 1970's were nothing to write home about. Hurricane Edith (1971) and Belle (1976) did hit the metro area.

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3 hours ago, JBG said:

There was nothing at all lackluster about 1977-8 (HECS in early February and important event in late January) or 1978-9 (one of the biggest cold waves in history capped off by a HECS on President's Day 1979, usually known as PD I, not be be confused with PD II in 2003). Even 1970-1 had a decent event New Year's Eve, and 1971-2 had a storm that gave mixed precip to NYC but crushed the Appalachians. Ithaca had its all-time record of 26" (I think) inches. All those aside, aside from notable cold waves in January 1970, January 1971, and December 1976-January 1977 the 1970's were nothing to write home about. Hurricane Edith (1971) and Belle (1976) did hit the metro area.

I was referring to the early and mid 1970s, which were completely different to the late 70s.

Outside of that historic ice storm, our "fun" really began from 1976 onwards.

 

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3 hours ago, JBG said:

There was nothing at all lackluster about 1977-8 (HECS in early February and important event in late January) or 1978-9 (one of the biggest cold waves in history capped off by a HECS on President's Day 1979, usually known as PD I, not be be confused with PD II in 2003). Even 1970-1 had a decent event New Year's Eve, and 1971-2 had a storm that gave mixed precip to NYC but crushed the Appalachians. Ithaca had its all-time record of 26" (I think) inches. All those aside, aside from notable cold waves in January 1970, January 1971, and December 1976-January 1977 the 1970's were nothing to write home about. Hurricane Edith (1971) and Belle (1976) did hit the metro area.

Wait a hurricane made landfall here in 1971?  I thought Belle in 1976 was the only hurricane landfall here in the 70s?  Did Agnes make landfall as a hurricane here too?

 

 

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On 1/19/2022 at 7:16 AM, LibertyBell said:

1973-74 and 1974-75 seem to be okay but outside of those, some very lackluster winters (and lackluster tropical seasons too).

 

Yeah but you're only seeing the numbers after the fact. You know that being "in it" can be a much different experience than it would seem to have been "by the numbers". We had some events that were more significant, cold that was deeper and more pervasive, some ice events that don't even show up and, on LI in particular, it just generally felt like winter more than it does now. I'm curious, does the lake at Grant Park still freeze up sufficiently for skating? That used to be a really popular place for us kids to go for weeks straight every year. 

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2 hours ago, gravitylover said:

Yeah but you're only seeing the numbers after the fact. You know that being "in it" can be a much different experience than it would seem to have been "by the numbers". We had some events that were more significant, cold that was deeper and more pervasive, some ice events that don't even show up and, on LI in particular, it just generally felt like winter more than it does now. I'm curious, does the lake at Grant Park still freeze up sufficiently for skating? That used to be a really popular place for us kids to go for weeks straight every year. 

Not really, at least it hasn't in a few years.  I think the last time it froze over enough for skating was 2015.

What a winter that was.....

Totally agree about being in a winter, but let me tell you, having experienced those 80s winters firsthand they sucked just as much being in them as looking back at them.  Cold and dry followed by mild and rain is my most hated combo.

 

 

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