Hurricane Flo Banter Thread-no fun allowed, no saying the storm isn’t that bad plz

[All Wet]

5 hours ago, hickory said:

Ok the story behind this pic is. I saw my 1992 cub scout trophy floating away. I jumped into the river and saved it. You can call me a hero if you want too. #hero 

(The shirt is ripped because of the raging flood waters)

Does anyone need any more proof that the invention of the Internet was a really bad idea?

[PressureDrop2017]

16 hours ago, Mdecoy said:

I would have toned it down.

Yes, preparation is great, but leading the governor in NC to say its the storm of a lifetime is a problem. Why? because people who weren't that effected will stay next time.

I think the NHC should know by now that model intensities are terrible. Need to tread lightly. The stall and crawl and just climo in general argued heavily against a CAT 4 or even a CAT 3 coming in.  I'd even say a CAT 2 was a stretch. But people on here even started whispers of a CAT 5. THE NHC put out that people should expect winds of up to 120MPH. They forecasted a CAT 4 moving in at one point. That was overkill IMO.

Again, there needs to be a balance. People need to take it seriously, but they get too carried away with the hype and ignore climo.

Another factor is this takes place in an atmosphere of general distrust of media, and now anything objectionable can simply be dismissed as "fake news" 

Plus, some outright frauds in the weather reporting, such as Mike Seidel, who actually did produce fake news, pretending that he can't stand up when others are walking casually in the background. And lying about the windspeed being 60 MPH when meanwhile it says on their own live broadcast that the speed is 29 MPH. That's not an exaggeration, it's an outright lie. The Weather Channel hasn't fired Seidel despite his clown act becoming an internet meme with millions of views  

[RevWarReenactor]

1 hour ago, PressureDrop2017 said:

Another factor is this takes place in an atmosphere of general distrust of media, and now anything objectionable can simply be dismissed as "fake news" 

Plus, some outright frauds in the weather reporting, such as Mike Seidel, who actually did produce fake news, pretending that he can't stand up when others are walking casually in the background. And lying about the windspeed being 60 MPH when meanwhile it says on their own live broadcast that the speed is 29 MPH. That's not an exaggeration, it's an outright lie. The Weather Channel hasn't fired Seidel despite his clown act becoming an internet meme with millions of views  

They fire people on a dime there, so I suspect it was top brass who put him up to that stuff.

[RevWarReenactor]

Another can of worms, these "curfews" where it is illegal to assemble on public property. They are unconstitutional. Government has been using them more and more. They literally closed an entire barrier island and the people who remained would be ticketed for leaving their house.

Sorry. Not legal.

[the ghost of leroy]

2 hours ago, Mdecoy said:

Another can of worms, these "curfews" where it is illegal to assemble on public property. They are unconstitutional. Government has been using them more and more. They literally closed an entire barrier island and the people who remained would be ticketed for leaving their house.

Sorry. Not legal.

Congrats on passing the bar!

[RevWarReenactor]

32 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said:

Congrats on passing the bar!

I am not sure why, but its an issue that just really gets me so angry.

Don't tell me I can't walk on public property. If you want to tell me that I am on my own and no rescue help will be available, that's totally fine, but law enforcement telling someone they can't peacefully assemble on public property is a huge rights violation.

[the ghost of leroy]

5 minutes ago, Mdecoy said:

I am not sure why, but its an issue that just really gets me so angry.

Don't tell me I can't walk on public property. If you want to tell me that I am on my own and no rescue help will be available, that's totally fine, but law enforcement telling someone they can't peacefully assemble on public property is a huge rights violation.

Don’t forget not being allowed to collect your own rain. 

[jburns]

3 hours ago, Mdecoy said:

I am not sure why, but its an issue that just really gets me so angry.

Don't tell me I can't walk on public property. If you want to tell me that I am on my own and no rescue help will be available, that's totally fine, but law enforcement telling someone they can't peacefully assemble on public property is a huge rights violation.

It's not as clear as you think.

To satisfy strict-scrutiny analysis, a government-imposed curfew on adults must be supported by a compelling state interest that is narrowly tailored to serve the curfew's objective.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that this right may be legitimately curtailed when a community has been ravaged by flood, fire, or disease, or when its safety and Welfare are otherwise threatened.

 Zemel v. Rusk,381 U.S. 1, 85 S. Ct. 1271, 14 L. Ed. 2d 179 (1965).

[RevWarReenactor]

22 minutes ago, jburns said:

It's not as clear as you think.

To satisfy strict-scrutiny analysis, a government-imposed curfew on adults must be supported by a compelling state interest that is narrowly tailored to serve the curfew's objective.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that this right may be legitimately curtailed when a community has been ravaged by flood, fire, or disease, or when its safety and Welfare are otherwise threatened.

 Zemel v. Rusk,381 U.S. 1, 85 S. Ct. 1271, 14 L. Ed. 2d 179 (1965).

Huh, that is interesting. I mean I do get the public safety argument. But it just feels a bit too far. Essentially, Hurricane chasing is illegal in this country. I wonder how Josh bypasses that law. Would be interesting to find out.

Because it now seems like a common practice that if a Hurricane is coming to somewhere, it suddenly becomes illegal to so much as be there. You can't get a hotel, they close it. You can't hang out in a car, they will knock on your window and tell you to leave or else. Basically the only way is if you actually own property on location, even then, they are going to highly encourage you to get out.

It just seems like a bit of a stretch to me to be able to arrest someone for such reasons. Feels like the government might be coming close to violating constitutional rights.

[the ghost of leroy]

1 hour ago, Mdecoy said:

Essentially, Hurricane chasing is illegal in this country. I wonder how Josh bypasses that law.

he's a centrist hillary dude and we all know they think they're above the law.

[jburns]

47 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said:

he's a centrist hillary dude and we all know they think they're above the law.

 Zemel v. Rusk,381 U.S. 1, 85 S. Ct. 1271, 14 L. Ed. 2d 179 (1965).

Moron.

[hickory]

Everybody breaks a law every now and then. Did you know it's illegal to mow your grass towards the road (NC).  Also you can still whip your wife on the steps of the Durham courthouse on Sunday. So my men out there with a disobedient wife you can start whipping

1 hour ago, the ghost of leroy said:

he's a centrist hillary dude and we all know they think they're above the y

[BlunderStorm]

When it comes to personal endangerment I would argue that it should be up to the individual not the government as to if someone should head towards a life threatening situation. That is assuming they have a sound mind (as sane as someone heading towards a hurricane can be considered ), are a legal adult, and are not taking anyone else who is a minor or against their will. The person who heads towards said life threatening situation should not expect the immediate aid of first responders and know the risks heading towards the dangerous situation will entail.This is just my half of a cent's worth of an opinion I'm not well versed in whatsoever.  Immediately 4 types of people heading towards a storm pop into my mind. 1) People desperately attempting to convince their family members to leave or help leave. 2) Weather enthusiasts, weenies, and thrill seekers. 3) Those trying to take advantage of the disaster possibly participating in burglaries or other criminal activity. 4) Mere civilians who want to ride out the storm and help first responders and locals with the situation. If you disagree then state why you do. I have a feeling as soon as I submit this I'm going to get heavily criticized. 

[the ghost of leroy]

33 minutes ago, jburns said:

 Zemel v. Rusk,381 U.S. 1, 85 S. Ct. 1271, 14 L. Ed. 2d 179 (1965).

Moron.

Lol

[hickory]

8 minutes ago, the ghost of leroy said:

Lol

Bro dont even go there he has a reputation in SE forum. My best advice is to walk away. No need to get banned

[the ghost of leroy]

39 minutes ago, hickory said:

Bro dont even go there he has a reputation in SE forum. My best advice is to walk away. No need to get banned

I know. I got pm’s advising me to be carefull. 

[RevWarReenactor]

1 hour ago, jburns said:

 Zemel v. Rusk,381 U.S. 1, 85 S. Ct. 1271, 14 L. Ed. 2d 179 (1965).

Moron.

I mean, I get it. They don't want yahoos out there killing themselves, hampering cleanup efforts,  putting EMTs lives in danger, etc.....plus it seems as though they have the legal basis for it.

It still just feels very wrong to me to be standing on public land and being told I would arrested if I don't leave. I've personally had this happen to me on a public beach.

[jburns]

1 hour ago, Mdecoy said:

I mean, I get it. They don't want yahoos out there killing themselves, hampering cleanup efforts,  putting EMTs lives in danger, etc.....plus it seems as though they have the legal basis for it.

It still just feels very wrong to me to be standing on public land and being told I would arrested if I don't leave. I've personally had this happen to me on a public beach.

My comment wasn't directed at you. I chase and agree with you for the most part. I responded to this:

3 hours ago, the ghost of leroy said:

he's a centrist hillary dude and we all know they think they're above the law.

I simply posted the relevant SCOTUS decision with a very brief synopsis. Since SCOTUS sets the law the above comment was, to be generous, moronic.

[the ghost of leroy]

You’re still mad at me and missing obvious sarcasm. Moron. 

[NJwx85]

An old article, but relevant to the discussion from a few days ago regarding gender of hurricanes, or lack thereof.

Facepalm worthy.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/us/female-hurricanes-deadlier/index.html

[Papa Joe]

On 9/14/2018 at 10:48 PM, f2tornado said:

 

 

 

The best part about the video, is that the wind was blowing from behind him. He was leaning in the wrong direction. 

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

4 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

An old article, but relevant to the discussion from a few days ago regarding gender of hurricanes, or lack thereof.

Facepalm worthy.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/us/female-hurricanes-deadlier/index.html

If I did not read it with my own eyes I would not believe it. A big big wtf.

[PressureDrop2017]

This was a brilliant parody of fake reporting of The Weather Channel, made by some locals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDlzrwK5M6c

[sickofit100]

Just like people of Houston texas are suing engineers, local government, and federal government

When will people in North Carolina and South Carolina sue local and federal government?

thats what this hype is about. our local Gov. here in SC and also NC announced they would release damns and that it would have flooding impact just like Houston TX. Though these little pieces of news were hardly mentioned IF at all of weather channel fox cnn bla bla.

I stayed in the storm it wasnt the storm that did all this flooding. Look up law suites in Houston Harvey

But... hype away 

for the one that will twist what im saying. Its exactly this The flooding was the doing of our own governments wether it was local, state, federal. Not the small tropical storm Florence. You may fool some people with this hype garbage you cant and havent been able to fool them all

Now knowing what I know and proving it in a court are two different things. How about those private damns, huh! Being encouraged instead of ORDERED to lower your damn level is something else isnt it? Or in the case of Housten when the Govenor ordered the damns to be lowered and if you didnt lower it your decision could be over ridden by National Guard or whoever gov entity

but... keep on hyping

and if you ever get in a trial in front of a jury of your peers what does that panel know? They know what they heard from the weather channel "STORM OF THE CENTURY"

so... keep on hyping

but i have taken the task up of letting people know that it wasnt the storm that caused this flooding.

[SENC]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 9:05 PM, Stebo said:

I still think this goes ashore before stalling, so I will go 120kt and 943mb just ene of Wilmington NC.

After getting back on-line..

Stebo I believe you got a "Bingo" No cover all, though you got Landfall spot on,, Landfall ENE of ILM (MasonBorugh Island)..

Landfall was Officially 958 Millibars 100 MPH sustained, (I believe).. 

I clocked 110 MPH on My Garage mounted Wind gauge & 957.5 Millibars

Landfall,,  l was about 7~10 miles as the crow flies to My ENE..  Eye came Right over Me..

For all you New York Sub-Forum Folks...

Would you like a Nice plate of Carolina BBQ Crow?

I opined that this would be a ..

Fran + Floyd + Hugo Storm..

Well got 2 outta 3 right..

[SENC]

On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 8:47 AM, mappy said:

technically was Wrightsville Beach

Masonborugh Island Which is between Wrightsville & Carolina beaches

[the ghost of leroy]

19 hours ago, SENC said:

After getting back on-line..

Stebo I believe you got a "Bingo" No cover all, though you got Landfall spot on,, Landfall ENE of ILM (MasonBorugh Island)..

Landfall was Officially 958 Millibars 100 MPH sustained, (I believe).. 

I clocked 110 MPH on My Garage mounted Wind gauge & 957.5 Millibars

Landfall,,  l was about 7~10 miles as the crow flies to My ENE..  Eye came Right over Me..

For all you New York Sub-Forum Folks...

Would you like a Nice plate of Carolina BBQ Crow?

I opined that this would be a ..

Fran + Floyd + Hugo Storm..

Well got 2 outta 3 right..

Re:957.5...how many meters ASL are you located?

[SENC]

 Elevation: 9m / 30feet