psv88 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Um thatis exactly what we have been talking about since my first post. You interjected your experience with users and drunks. I am before judges in cases with dealers as well, and i have never ever seen one simply released without supervision. This is a fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Um thatis exactly what we have been talking about since my first post. You interjected your experience with users and drunks. 6 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I have moved away from this tragedy like 10 posts ago and tried to talk about how we can’t predict human behavior. We jail the wrong people and let bad people out in society all the time. What can we do to not have school/church/club mass killings, put bad people away while also having a more rehab approach for those who simply just made a bad mistake and got caught???? I made one post about this type of incident and now you want to talk about BLM and mass shootings, yea no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, psv88 said: I am before judges in cases with dealers as well, and i have never ever seen one simply released without supervision. This is a fiction. Tell Mass that, this dity cop killing punk was released. OH and look up the Griswold Ct triple murders by a guy on probation, see how many probation violations he had but was still allowed to roam free. system is broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, psv88 said: No, i get paid handsomely by them, if thats being owned, then sure. Reason one why our jails are overcrowded by poor drug users and drunks. You are part of the problem dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Tell Mass that, this dity cop killing punk was released. OH and look up the Griswold Ct triple murders by a guy on probation, see how many probation violations he had but was still allowed to roam free. system is broken Ding ding, the system is broke....on both ends of the ‘spectrum’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Tell Mass that, this dity cop killing punk was released. OH and look up the Griswold Ct triple murders by a guy on probation, see how many probation violations he had but was still allowed to roam free. system is broken Agree! Probation violations happen all the time with no consequences. He actually believes all are being supervised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Tell Mass that, this dity cop killing punk was released. OH and look up the Griswold Ct triple murders by a guy on probation, see how many probation violations he had but was still allowed to roam free. system is broken First, there is no inference that someone selling drugs has any propensity for violence, so him being released with supervision does not strike me as irresponsible honestly, if it is of course a minor first time offense. If he is repeat that is different, and if it selling to kids, large quantity, etc it is also different. But selling a dime bag to your buddy doesnt warrant incarceration to me. Selling to kids, selling harder drugs, then yes. Each case is specific and unique. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: Reason one why our jails are overcrowded by poor drug users and drunks. You are part of the problem dude. As I told him he's "owned" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, psv88 said: First, there is no inference that someone selling drugs has any propensity for violence, so him being released with supervision does not strike me as irresponsible honestly, if it is of course a minor first time offense. If he is repeat that is different, and if it selling to kids, large quantity, etc it is also different. But selling a dime bag to your buddy doesnt warrant incarceration to me. Selling to kids, selling harder drugs, then yes. Each case is specific and unique. Coke and 3 grams below a federal offense. Scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Agree! Probation violations happen all the time with no consequences. He actually believes all are being supervised. Friend, i have a client in jail right now for violating probation. Dude is a complete moron and its a shame because he has a kid, but hes in jail now based on the VP. So at least down here, probation is strict. Weekly appointments, weekly follow ups for rehab, therapy, whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Reason one why our jails are overcrowded by poor drug users and drunks. You are part of the problem dude. so by getting paid for my job, i am part of the problem? Should i work for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In other news, an 11 million ton rogue iceberg threatens a Greenland village. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b4abefce4b022fdcc59fbf6/amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: In other news, an 11 million ton rogue iceberg threatens a Greenland village. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b4abefce4b022fdcc59fbf6/amp This iceberg should be locked up and not free to roam the ocean. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, dendrite said: This iceberg should be locked up and not free to roam the ocean. It may be too late. He had a checkered past too with multiple melts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: It may be too late. He had a checkered past too with multiple melts. Well at least we know who the defense attorney will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Well at least we know who the defense attorney will be If only Johnny Cochran was alive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: Coke and 3 grams below a federal offense. Scumbag Possession of marijuana is a federal offense...just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Hell must of needed an attorney We should ask MPM for his advice on whether or not hell exists, he knows God personally...lives in his country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: Possession of marijuana is a federal offense...just saying. Lalalala lock them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, weathafella said: Possession of marijuana is a federal offense...just saying. 1 hour ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Lalalala lock them up. Lets equate Coke with weed, yea nice deflection Berg, so very very dumb. Lets allow coke dealers to kids on the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 32 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lets equate Coke with weed, yea nice deflection Berg, so very very dumb. Lets allow coke dealers to kids on the streets The people who are saying it's not that big a deal would feel entirely different if it was their son or daughter. Just terrible that the police officer and the woman had to die in such a manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lets equate Coke with weed, yea nice deflection Berg, so very very dumb. Lets allow coke dealers to kids on the streets What do you define as a kid? I’m sure dealers don’t ask for id. And in any case it would not predict mudering a cop. In fact, out of the clear blue some 75 year olds do that with no priors. What happened is awful and a tragedy but I’m not sure how to stop it. This isn’t the same as that guy who murdered the cop a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: The people who are saying it's not that big a deal would feel entirely different if it was their son or daughter. Just terrible that the police officer and the woman had to die in such a manner. Our justice system doesn’t work on pure emotion nor should it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Make it stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: What do you define as a kid? I’m sure dealers don’t ask for id. And in any case it would not predict mudering a cop. In fact, out of the clear blue some 75 year olds do that with no priors. What happened is awful and a tragedy but I’m not sure he w to stop it. This isn’t the same as that guy who murdered the cop a few months ago. A minor is defined as being under the age of 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Make it stop At least we aren't writing "TORCH" every 3rd post!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: A minor is defined as being under the age of 18. Which is why selling to kids has a connotation different vs someone looking adult but age 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, weathafella said: Which is why selling to kids has a connotation different va someone looking adult but age 17. A 17 year old is a kid. Regardless it's wrong and against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: What do you define as a kid? I’m sure dealers don’t ask for id. And in any case it would not predict mudering a cop. In fact, out of the clear blue some 75 year olds do that with no priors. What happened is awful and a tragedy but I’m not sure how to stop it. This isn’t the same as that guy who murdered the cop a few months ago. 3 grams less than the federal charge for distribution Jerry, out on bail for $500.00 bucks, 3 charges to boot. Yea this happens a lot, not murder but these dealers are violent thugs, not some 75 year old selling weed on the side. This is the Meth, heroin, fentanyl, coke,crack dealers. I am surprised people are so uninformed about the trade and their ways. If you can sit with a veteran cop and ask him the difference between pot dealers and this crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: A 17 year old is a kid. Regardless it's wrong and against the law. But should he have been in the slammer indefinitely? How would you manage this and still have room for known violent perpetrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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