Stinkbugspecialist Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Trends should be the theme this winter. And if we got anything in our favor we have a trend south or colder via noaa. Hopefully it continues slightly. Weather channel going on 8-12 and jinxing us. I'm ready to call them to say put em rain up on there map for west pa. The weather channel and the warm toungue of death should be in dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not that model guidance should be taken as exact, but there is no model out there to support what our NWS office is saying. I am thinking they will have to adjust after the 12z suite is complete. At least to a 2-4 or 3-5 forecast for the general pittsburgh area I will absolutely throw out the absurd nam solution, but the gfs, both nams, and the Canadian all support somewhere between a 4-8 type storm, as did the euro last night. I feel comfortable in saying 4-8 as a first call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 It still can be more. Even noaa said it's trending colder. So I'm hoping more like 93 hahaha we need a 970mb low hugging the coast for that. I think this one can max out 8-10 if everything falls into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 It still can be more. Even noaa said it's trending colder. So I'm hoping more like 93 No...but a good warning level 4-8 event seems like a pretty good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkbugspecialist Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 It would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 hahaha we need a 970mb low hugging the coast for that. I think this one can max out 8-10 if everything falls into place. Agree. I think at worst this is a3-5 type event with a changeover after 12 hours of snow...I think the 1-3 solution at this point is off the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not that model guidance should be taken as exact, but there is no model out there to support what our NWS office is saying. I am thinking they will have to adjust after the 12z suite is complete. At least to a 2-4 or 3-5 forecast for the general pittsburgh area It's probably an old forecast. I bet when they update it won't be saying 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhead Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This looks like a moderate event to me. Models show the synoptic lift but not the better frontogenesis to support heavy precip. After 18z Sat snow should become wet at PIT...p-type still could very well be snow but it will be wetter, partially melted, more compacted on the ground probably. ATTM am thinking snowfall totals of 3-6" for the PIT metro area. Roads may be OK in the afternoon due to Feb. sun+air temps 32-34F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Watch Bernies video. Hopefully it plays out the way he says. http://videowall.accuweather.com/detail/videos/current-weather-news/video/2430839568001/weekend-storm-to-blast-east-wi?autoStart=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Local stations WTAE 3-6" with ice will be south of Pittsburgh. The city can expect 2-4" by Sunday morning and 1-2" for areas north of Pittsburgh. KDKA 1-3 with possible ending as rain. WPXI Snow. 3-5 inches Snow may mix with or change to freezing rain and rain late in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Watch Bernies video. Hopefully it plays out the way he says. http://videowall.accuweather.com/detail/videos/current-weather-news/video/2430839568001/weekend-storm-to-blast-east-wi?autoStart=true So Bernie thinks 5-10 for Pgh area. Hope he is correct. He always has good explanations but he misses quite frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Despite what KPit sees... I'd get my eyes checked for color blindness if I were you.... Looks like most models except reg NAM per my eyes has AGC in 3 to 5-6 inch range. Just waiting on the EURO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Looks like at least a solid 4-6 inch event.rgem shows more as does nam. Nothing shows 1-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think its Nowcasting time. The precip is supposed to start breaking out tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 DT hasn't been very good with our area so FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Polar Vortex 2014 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 DT hasn't been very good with our area so FWIW. Poor Knoxville. They stole our warm tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel975 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Anyone know when the NWS is going to update their discussion? There hasn't been an update since this morning. I did see this article concerning a parking ban in Youngstown this weekend for snow amounts over 4", so I'm guessing we are getting at least that much. http://wkbn.com/2015/02/20/youngstown-to-declare-snow-emergency-parking-ban/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodWx Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 DT hasn't been very good with our area so FWIW. DT relocated Pittsburgh to Westmoreland County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Doesn't sound like NWS is going to issue any advisories based on 12z suite. Sounds like they are saying ignore all of the models showing more than 3 inches. They must still think 3 is the max. US National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 3 hrs · <<<< Winter Weather This Weekend >>>> Please keep in mind you will be hearing snow amounts from various sources. We wanted to make sure you are aware of what our definitions are for winter weather headlines and proper use of social media ahead of a winter event. We will post our snow amounts here and onweather.gov/pittsburgh National Weather Service Pittsburgh Definitions: Winter Weather Advisory 3" of snow or greater in 12 hoursWinter Storm Warning 6" or more of snow 12 hours or 8" or more in 24 hoursWinter Storm WATCH, 50% chance of meeting winter storm warning snow amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel975 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Just got a Winter Storm Warning text for Lawrence County until 10 PM tomorrow. Looks like most of the area has a WSW-enjoy it! http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=PAZ013&warncounty=PAC073&firewxzone=PAZ013&local_place1=Enon%20Valley%20PA&product1=Winter+Storm+Warning&lat=40.8558&lon=-80.4574#.VOePoS6rWT8 Winter Storm WarningURGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA245 PM EST FRI FEB 20 2015PAZ007>009-013>016-020>023-029-073-075-WVZ001>003-210345-/O.NEW.KPBZ.WS.W.0005.150221T1100Z-150222T0300Z/MERCER-VENANGO-FOREST-LAWRENCE-BUTLER-CLARION-JEFFERSON PA-BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-ARMSTRONG-INDIANA-WASHINGTON-WESTMORELAND-FAYETTE-HANCOCK-BROOKE-OHIO-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GROVE CITY...FRANKLIN...TIONESTA...NEW CASTLE...BUTLER...CLARION...BROOKVILLE...BEAVER...PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...KITTANNING...INDIANA...WASHINGTON...GREENSBURG...LATROBE...UNIONTOWN...WEIRTON...BETHANY...WHEELING245 PM EST FRI FEB 20 2015...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 10 PM ESTSATURDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 10 PMEST SATURDAY.* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...4 TO 7 INCHES.* PERIOD OF MOST INTENSE SNOW/ICE...MID MORNING TO MID AFTERNOON.* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO SNOW ACCUMULATION.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR SNOW MEANS THAT HEAVY SNOWFALL WILLMAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUT AT ALL...USEEXTREME CAUTION. REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHERSERVICE BY CALLING...412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGHFACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 2 products issued by NWS for: Penn Hills PA Winter Storm WarningURGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA245 PM EST FRI FEB 20 2015PAZ007>009-013>016-020>023-029-073-075-WVZ001>003-210345-/O.NEW.KPBZ.WS.W.0005.150221T1100Z-150222T0300Z/MERCER-VENANGO-FOREST-LAWRENCE-BUTLER-CLARION-JEFFERSON PA-BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-ARMSTRONG-INDIANA-WASHINGTON-WESTMORELAND-FAYETTE-HANCOCK-BROOKE-OHIO-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GROVE CITY...FRANKLIN...TIONESTA...NEW CASTLE...BUTLER...CLARION...BROOKVILLE...BEAVER...PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...KITTANNING...INDIANA...WASHINGTON...GREENSBURG...LATROBE...UNIONTOWN...WEIRTON...BETHANY...WHEELING245 PM EST FRI FEB 20 2015...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 10 PM ESTSATURDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WARNING FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 10 PMEST SATURDAY.* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...4 TO 7 INCHES.* PERIOD OF MOST INTENSE SNOW/ICE...MID MORNING TO MID AFTERNOON.* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED DUE TO SNOW ACCUMULATION.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR SNOW MEANS THAT HEAVY SNOWFALL WILLMAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS. IF YOU MUST VENTURE OUT AT ALL...USEEXTREME CAUTION. REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHERSERVICE BY CALLING...412-262-1988...POSTING TO THE NWS PITTSBURGHFACEBOOK PAGE...OR USING TWITTER @NWSPITTSBURGH.&&$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Be interesting to see what sticks to the roads with higher late Feb sun and temps suppose to be near or above 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Be interesting to see what sticks to the roads with higher late Feb sun and temps suppose to be near or above 32. it will....this has been discussed on here MULTIPLE times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Welp, Warning is up for the entire Pittsburgh zone. So much for those 1-3 predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 DT relocated Pittsburgh to Westmoreland County. Had to laugh out loud on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Had to laugh out loud on that Lol, I didn't notice that! I love DT's call of 6-10, but he has been really awful this year on storms for our area, so we will see. I am sticking with a 4-8 prediction though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Welp, Warning is up for the entire Pittsburgh zone. So much for those 1-3 predictions. I posted what my NWS Text forecast stated, like I said you have a issue call out the NWS, that is why I included a screen shot. so when you did start to call me names or run to the mods like you do everytime someone disagrees or doesn't post what you want to read you would understand where i got that info from. I'm happy we are going to get pounded. I will be up at Blue Knob boarding with my wife and kids, have fun reporting on this from your bedroom peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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