Winter 2013 - 2014 Banter Thread

[Momza]

for all the youngsters out there who don't know who she is

 

good catch nao…….1964..

[Momza]

for all the youngsters out there who don't know who she is

 

JB in drag?

[NYY_2]

the list of indices for NYC 10" snowfalls...AO/PNA/NAO/Enso...

snowstorm...date......AO......PNA......NAO......Enso/MEI....

12" 03/18/1956....0.470....0.186.....-0.225.....La Nina

12" 03/20/1958...-2.522....0.067.....-0.830.....El Nino

14" 12/21/1959....1.266....0.114......1.032.....Neutral-

15" 03/03/1960...-1.265...-0.834......0.249.....Neutral-

15" 12/11/1960...-0.343....1.527.....-0.316.....Neutral-

10" 01/19/1961...-1.506....1.587......0.392.....Neutral-

18" 02/03/1961....0.621....0.489.....-0.126.....Neutral-

13" 01/12/1964....0.385....0.654.....-1.180.....Weak El Nino

15" 02/06/1967....1.180....0.732......0.230.....Weak La Nina

15" 02/09/1969...-3.114...-0.325......0.044.....Weak El Nino

14" 01/19/1978...-0.347....0.262......0.230.....Weak El Nino

18" 02/06/1978...-3.014....1.188.....-0.093.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/19/1979...-0.697...-0.042......0.254.....Neutral+

18" 02/11/1983...-1.806....0.845.....-0.567.....El Nino

10" 03/13/1993....0.764...-0.179......0.472.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/11/1994...-0.862...-0.454......0.927.....Neutral+

11" 02/04/1995....1.429....1.604......0.437.....El Nino

20" 01/08/1996...-1.200....0.447.....-0.392.....Weak La Nina

11" 02/16/1996....0.163...-0.421......0.534.....Weak La Nina

12" 12/30/2000...-2.354....1.075.....-0.537.....Weak La Nina

20" 02/16/2003....0.128....0.681......0.836.....El Nino

14" 12/05/2003....0.265....0.784.....-0.197.....Neutral+

10" 01/25/2004...-1.686....0.164.....-0.541.....Neutral+

14" 01/25/2005....0.356....1.098.....-0.035.....El Nino

27" 02/11/2006...-0.156....1.658......0.136.....Neutral-

11" 12/19/2009...-3.413....0.549.....-1.833.....El Nino

10" 02/09/2010...-4.266....0.622.....-1.136.....El Nino

21" 02/25/2010...-3.818....0.087.....-0.219.....El Nino

20" 12/26/2010...-2.631...-0.284.....-0.834.....La Nina

19" 01/26/2011...-1.683....1.233.....-0.142.....La Nina

11" 02/09/2013...-0.700....0.403......0.219.....neutral-

11" 01/21/2014...-1.843....1.172......0.137.....neutral-

12" 02/13/2014....0.182...-1.097......0.690.....neutral-

Awesome, thanks for the info

[David-LI]

2 weeks and no sign of flight mh370 and you guys worried about a snowstorm going east. That missing flight is actually starting to bother me and I have no idea why

[JetsPens87]

2 weeks and no sign of flight mh370 and you guys worried about a snowstorm going east. That missing flight is actually starting to bother me and I have no idea why

While I'm sure people are worried about it and we pray for those families. ... This is a weather forum not an aviation forum so please forgive us for discussing a potential snowstorm.

[David-LI]

While I'm sure people are worried about it and we pray for those families. ... This is a weather forum not an aviation forum so please forgive us for discussing a potential snowstorm.

 

I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low. 

[JetsPens87]

I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low.

No need to apologize brother

Trust me I'm praying for those involved and concerned until they find something definitive because who knows where that plane could be and what it could be used for.

[IsentropicLift]

Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

[Rjay]

Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

Until u read more about it and find out they were just looking for asylum

[JetsPens87]

Btw... Some serious arguing going on in NE forum in the "do we have one more in is" thread. ... It's not only us NYC!

[David-LI]

By the way JetsPens87, since you are a met, do you believe this could end up being a 20+ inch HECS for NYC metro?

[JetsPens87]

By the way JetsPens87, since you are a met, do you believe this could end up being a 20+ inch HECS for NYC metro?

I do not

But ask Mike hobbyst and I'm sure you'll get a whole different answer.

[Momza]

I do not

But ask Mike hobbyst and I'm sure you'll get a whole different answer.

That guy got the mojo....

[Momza]

That guy got the mojo....

Gonna be his agent , once this historic event is over. I have already booked him on fox, cnbc,etc......

At 10 per cent....will travel the world(hope he is over 18)......

C'mon I just need 150 miles west.....

[NEG NAO]

JB in drag?

speaking of Drag - anyone hear anything from Walt Drag lately regarding this possible storm ?

[weatherpruf]

I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low. 

I'm telling you this as a mental health professional: do not personalize tragedies that don't  involve people you know and care for. Want to get upset? Go rent The Act of Killing; a million people "disappeared" in Indonesia in the 1960's and no one raised an eyebrow. And it wasn't an accident. Back to the weather.

[weatherpruf]

Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

Not really. A fire on board could be the culprit. we simply don't know. An act of terrorism is not effective if people do not know it was an act of terrorism; the purpose is to terrify. Emotional instability among the crew would be a better explanation. But I do not think we are going to get an explanation, and no terrorist organization has claimed credit. And the plane might never be found. A passenger plane disappeared in one of the Great lakes in the 1950's. That's a lot less water.

[NYY_2]

Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

[NEG NAO]

I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

the reason they might not be claiming responsibilty is because the attempt got screwed up -they still haven't explained fully those fake stolen passports - also  reminds me of what happened on 9/11 when one of the hijacked airplanes crashed in the field in  PA - I bet airport security is really going to be tight the next few months - anyone fly lately ?

[REDMK6GLI]

the reason they might not be claiming responsibilty is because the attempt got screwed up -they still haven't explained fully those fake stolen passports - also reminds me of what happened on 9/11 when one of the hijacked airplanes crashed in the field in PA - I bet airport security is really going to be tight the next few months - anyone fly lately ?

Im going to be flying next month down to NC. Cant say its not the slight bit concerning to me

[Edge Weather]

I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

 

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe no one is taking credit because just possibly their plan is not fulfilled yet?  They will take credit once it has been fulfilled, if that is what is going to happen.  I truly hope that they find the plane in the ocean but my fear is that there are other plans for this plane that will be put to  use after things die down a bit.

[StatenWx]

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe no one is taking credit because just possibly their plan is not fulfilled yet? They will take credit once it has been fulfilled, if that is what is going to happen. I truly hope that they find the plane in the ocean but my fear is that there are other plans for this plane that will be put to use after things die down a bit.

where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.

[Juliancolton]

Im going to be flying next month down to NC. Cant say its not the slight bit concerning to me

There are up to 30,000 domestic passenger flights in the US every day, meaning we're closing in on half a million since the MH370 incident. I think you're good to go.

[NYY_2]

Yes I do consider that a possibility which scares me, I just feel that the fact they don't have any clue as to where is could mean it crashed in the ocean. It could also be on some remote island that has been recognized as a possibility. There are so many theories as to what happened to it from hijacking to the pilots being involved so I don't know what to believe at this point

[weatherpruf]

where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.

The problem people have is they cannot accept that yes, something can go wrong, and a big plane can just disappear. it disrupts our sense of complacency about flying. which we are led to believe is oh so safe.Stats are against you being in a crash. But what are the stats on surviving a crash? Not so good. So people assume there couldn't be a problem with the plane it had to be deliberate. More likely human error ( and emotional instability would be a kind of human error if this was a suicide by a crew member ) which accounts for a lot of plane crashes. Avianca crashed on LI years ago because they ran out of gas and were not persistent enough with the control tower that they were in serious trouble; also the crew did not want to challenge the pilot. American crashed in the mountains of Colombia because the pilot didn't believe his altitude monitor, which was telling him he was too low. Would we be talking terrorism if the pilots were Christians like, say, Timothy McVeigh?

[Edge Weather]

where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.

 

Pakistan guarded and protected Bin Laden.  I would start there.

[weatherpruf]

Pakistan guarded and protected Bin Laden.  I would start there.

Hiding a man ain't like hiding a plane full of passengers. in the big city. And it was not Pakistan that guarded Bin Laden, maybe some elements of the secret police. Whitey effin Bulger was hiding in plain sight right here in the USA. For decades.

[weatherpruf]

There are up to 30,000 domestic passenger flights in the US every day, meaning we're closing in on half a million since the MH370 incident. I think you're good to go.

I'd rather drive myself. Thanks. And spare me the stats. I know em.

[Ed Lizard]

If I still lived in Massapequa (ie, the NYC subforum), I'd be thrilled by a late March 2 or 6 inch snowstorm.

 

 

Now that I am down in Texas, anything less than Boxing Day or PDII leaves me feeling unfulfilled.

 

 

Not a forecast, but it seems the trend is for a fairly decent miss by a bomb, strong enough to get a little snow to locations near the Coast.  6 inches would have put us on the margin of a snow day at St. Martin of Tours in Amityville.

 

5 days of missed school in February, 1978, that, and Hurricane Belle and actually having the NYNG come to the door and tell us to evacuate (Belle was a dud, IMHO, except it was my first exposure to cable TV, the Harkins of North Massapequa had cable), well, if they'd had internet subforums then...

 

Why I think Metfan of the NYPD is one of my favorite posters.  I'm 50 now, and I do not deny my inner weenie.  Yes, if I had to rate the smartest non-tagger, it'd probably be Donald Sutherland.  Earthlight is solid, no doubt why he is a mod.

 

I don't even try to do actual in depth meteorology on this systems where placement of a ridge is crucial, and multiple disturbances have to phase.  I am strictly model-ology, trends and ensembles.

 

Now, severe weather and the tropics, I will stare at WV loops and compare to the model initialization, read the Albany guys on Kelvin waves and the such, look at actual balloon data, read NWS discos for the latest aircraft reported conditions, and deeply regret all the Texas RAOB sites are on the periphery of the state...

 

 

But potential triple phasers are almost like magic to me...  I know what the models show at various levels, I know what 500 mb pattern is best, but model-ology, persistence, ensembles, and a ranking with Euro with a slight lead over the GFS, and when they agree and are stable, I just accept it.  KU book, (and the second edition!)  the primer, once the storm is actually in progress, that is the calm, relaxed yet excited time, if that makes sense.

 

The potential blizzard/probable miss, is like your team down 8 points with 2 minutes left, 3 time outs, and only in the single bonus with the possession arrow pointing the other way.  Tense.  Too tense.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

If I still lived in Massapequa (ie, the NYC subforum), I'd be thrilled by a late March 2 or 6 inch snowstorm.

Now that I am down in Texas, anything less than Boxing Day or PDII leaves me feeling unfulfilled.

Not a forecast, but it seems the trend is for a fairly decent miss by a bomb, strong enough to get a little snow to locations near the Coast. 6 inches would have put us on the margin of a snow day at St. Martin of Tours in Amityville.

5 days of missed school in February, 1978, that, and Hurricane Belle and actually having the NYNG come to the door and tell us to evacuate (Belle was a dud, IMHO, except it was my first exposure to cable TV, the Harkins of North Massapequa had cable), well, if they'd had internet subforums then...

Why I think Metfan of the NYPD is one of my favorite posters. I'm 50 now, and I do not deny my inner weenie. Yes, if I had to rate the smartest non-tagger, it'd probably be Donald Sutherland. Earthlight is solid, no doubt why he is a mod.

I don't even try to do actual in depth meteorology on this systems where placement of a ridge is crucial, and multiple disturbances have to phase. I am strictly model-ology, trends and ensembles.

Now, severe weather and the tropics, I will stare at WV loops and compare to the model initialization, read the Albany guys on Kelvin waves and the such, look at actual balloon data, read NWS discos for the latest aircraft reported conditions, and deeply regret all the Texas RAOB sites are on the periphery of the state...

But potential triple phasers are almost like magic to me... I know what the models show at various levels, I know what 500 mb pattern is best, but model-ology, persistence, ensembles, and a ranking with Euro with a slight lead over the GFS, and when they agree and are stable, I just accept it. KU book, (and the second edition!) the primer, once the storm is actually in progress, that is the calm, relaxed yet excited time, if that makes sense.

The potential blizzard/probable miss, is like your team down 8 points with 2 minutes left, 3 time outs, and only in the single bonus with the possession arrow pointing the other way. Tense. Too tense.

I always wondered what belle was like in SE Nassau. I was under the impression that it was forcasted to weaken and thus there wouldn't have been evacuations. How did it go down?