Geos Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's very difficult to get that much snow on the ground around these areas. That is because compaction is hard to battle. To get 20 inches of snow OTG you need to have 30-35 inches of snow without to much melting. Buffalo received 83 inches of snow in 5 days, and the maximum snow on the ground was 45 inches. That is nearly 50% compaction. Crazy stuff~! Geezzz. What kind of water content did you have? --- Freezing line racing towards the MS River now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Geezzz. What kind of water content did you have? --- Freezing line racing towards the MS River now. Not sure it was lake effect, but temperatures were in the upper 20s. So ratios were pretty standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's very difficult to get that much snow on the ground around these areas. That is because compaction is hard to battle. To get 20 inches of snow OTG you need to have 30-35 inches of snow without to much melting. Buffalo received 83 inches of snow in 5 days in 2001, and the maximum snow on the ground was 45 inches. That is nearly 50% compaction. Crazy stuff~! Yeah...in lake effect its all the more crazy. But compaction always rules the roost...on Jan 31, 2011 the snow depth at DTW was 6". Then, the blizzard of Feb 1-2 dropped a 36-hour total snowfall of 10.3"...then a surprise snowstorm on Feb 5 dropped 4.8". The 7am depth on Feb 6th was 16". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Even though it's 37 out right now the puddles of water on the sidewalk from melting snow earlier actually froze up pretty hard. Very slippery. So even though the air temp is well above freezing the ground is still quite cold. The snow melt is pretty much over now, so the 3" of cement will go on to make a firm base for additional snows over the next few weeks. Have now had at least an inch of snow on the ground here since the evening of Dec 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Deepest snow depth I had was in December of 2000 and January 1999. Both instances I got up to around 30" snow depth! Temperature is sliding here too. Warmest air has moved on to the east. Sitting at 35°. Cold air will be barreling like a freight train after 4 or 5am in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 DTW hit 47F today, local wunderground station near me had 48F. You can find an isolated skiff of snow here and there, but mainly just a lot of grass and some shoveled piles, more noticeable on the "shady" side of the street. Still big dirty snowbanks in all the parking lots with streams coming out of them. Northern burbs (96 north) still maintaining a white glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Northern burbs (96 north) still maintaining a white glacier.Yeah I knew they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 17F here...0F in MSP... -25F in International Falls.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 26 here. Was thinking it would be much colder by now. Hit 38 just after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Almost seems to be a secondary push of colder air well behind the front. Far eastern Iowa still in the low-mid 20s, but temps in central Iowa are down in the single digits. Should see temps drop a good 10-15 degrees here by sunset. Point has -10 for tonight. Already 6 subzero days this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Down to 24° here with -zr drizzle. Driveway has ice on it again and my car. Snow depth leveled off at 6" overnight. Very dense. -5° for the point tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 30 -ZR glaze on elevated surfaces...chairs, grill, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I see LOT and IWX issued a zr advisory. Driving and walking could get interesting later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Latest HRRR has parts of northern WI down to -35 to -37 by 2am. If that was the case some areas in northern WI would be get down near -40 tonight lol. Point forecast in those areas are "only" in the -20 to -25 range, so the HRRR must be out to lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thin glaze on everything now...including sidewalks, driveways, and street (at least my local side street...not a major road) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 -ZR drizzle has come to an end here, now flurries. 21°. Winds are not too bad yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Heading towards the 0F mark here... 4F up on the bluff right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 If the forecast holds true through the end of Tuesday the month will be over -7.2° from normal. About to dip into the teens now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Cleared out late this afternoon for some sunshine... winds have let up a little but the temps hovering just above zero here at the house... Should be the coldest nite of the year. f Tomorrow looks good for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 A little late to the boat but a nice glazing of ice on elevated surfaces late this afternoon and early evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Temps tanking. Down to 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 15° here with flurries. Still cloudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Been away for a few days after spending too much time tracking the ice storm. Looks like there's a lot to catch up on. After two days of above-freezing temperatures, cold air is flooding in. Down a good 10F in the last three hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 My station is reading -6.4F right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Down to 1 above here. Coldest air seems to be more prevalent on our side of the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Pretty cool to know that somewhere on the planet right now they're baking in intense heat while the northern US suffers through the extreme cold. You want heat, head to Australia. BTW dews are in the upper 70s right now on the northern Australian coast lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Down to 1 above here. Coldest air seems to be more prevalent on our side of the globe. Bit of a data void over Siberia I would say! I'd take the 70s on the east coast of AU. Down to 10° imby now. Clearing line is almost here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Stat alert. As temps warmed into the low 40s ahead of the front and the sun came out today, our last few patches of "natural" snow melted. Just piles left. The front brought with it 0.01" of drizzle/freezing drizzle leaving a small film of ice, but no snow. So my 8am snow depth tomorrow will be 0, ruining a streak of some amount of snowcover since Dec 9th for one whole day, as some fresh snow will be on the ground Tuesday morning. With snow and cold appearing to lock in, it hopefully will be a lone day of 0 for quite sometime this winter. North of a DTW-DET line there is still a T-1 on the ground. 8am snowdepth 12/09: 1 12/10: 1 12/11: 1 12/12: 1 12/13: 1 12/14: 2 12/15: 9 12/16: 8 12/17: 9 12/18: 8 12/19: 8 12/20: 5 12/21: 2 12/22: 1 12/23: T 12/24: T 12/25: T 12/26: 1 12/27: 1 12/28: T 12/29: T 12/30: 0 12/31: ? (T or 1 probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 We're all out of degrees here. The stale 3" of crustation is doing it's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Nothing to prevent a fast drop now. +7.7° imby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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