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Unsettled cool weather ends April, what does May bring


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Have you looked outside? Too many j's in AK?

Well, coming back from the airport it looked very green to me compared to what I've been looking at recently. Up here though it's not even close to the full leaf out predicted by Blizz for 4/1. CT is torchville. Too many J's when you should be hitting the books?

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Friday is a very tough forecast for sure. NAM keeps us socked in with clouds while the GFS has more in the way of sun and stronger instability. NAM also has some decent shear while GFS is pretty meh.

Given how there will be no cap in place, the potential for llvl winds to be more southerly, lift working into the region and likely cloud debris from previous day convection I will have to think the NAM might be more correct here. I know the NAM usually tends to overdo cloud cover, however, given what's in place the NAM may be right on this.

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can i get a link to the daily's for june 2009...for like BOS ive heard it was awful...but wasn't here for it.

000
CXUS51 KBOX 011200
CF6BOS
PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6)

                                         STATION:   BOSTON MA
                                         MONTH:     JUNE
                                         YEAR:      2009
                                         LATITUDE:   42 22 N
                                         LONGITUDE:  71  2 W

 TEMPERATURE IN F:       :PCPN:    SNOW:  WIND      :SUNSHINE: SKY     :PK WND
================================================================================
1   2   3   4   5  6A  6B    7    8   9   10  11  12  13   14  15   16   17  18
                                    12Z  AVG MX 2MIN
DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

1  71  48  60  -4   5   0 0.00  0.0    0 12.6 20 260   M    M   4        26 280
2  79  56  68   4   0   3 0.00  0.0    0  9.2 18 250   M    M   M        25 260
3  71  58  65   1   0   0 0.00  0.0    M  8.9 18 230   M    M   M        28 250
4  71  58  65   0   0   0 0.00  0.0    0  9.0 17 110   M    M   8        26 100
5  64  54  59  -6   6   0 0.01  0.0    0  8.3 16 100   M    M  10        20  90
6  68  54  61  -4   4   0    T  0.0    0  9.9 20 110   M    M   7        23 110
7  83  60  72   6   0   7    T  0.0    0  8.0 20 280   M    M   7 1      23 260
8  67  61  64  -2   1   0 0.00  0.0    0  8.3 16 110   M    M   6        20 120
9  62  53  58  -8   7   0 0.10  0.0    0  9.6 21  90   M    M   9 1      23  90
10  60  54  57 -10   8   0    T  0.0    0  6.6 12  70   M    M  10 18     14  70
11  58  55  57 -10   8   0 0.20  0.0    0  7.4 12  90   M    M  10 18     15  70
12  74  54  64  -3   1   0 0.56  0.0    0  5.0 14 300   M    M   8 18     17 280
13  69  61  65  -2   0   0    T  0.0    0  8.2 17 110   M    M   6        20 110
14  63  57  60  -8   5   0 0.20  0.0    0  7.4 15 110   M    M   9 1      17 110
15  62  56  59  -9   6   0 0.00  0.0    0  7.5 14  90   M    M   9        16  90
16  62  54  58 -10   7   0    T  0.0    0  7.2 13 100   M    M   5 1      16 100
17  75  53  64  -4   1   0 0.00  0.0    0  8.6 18 200   M    M   5        22 190
18  68  56  62  -7   3   0 0.43  0.0    0  8.5 16 160   M    M   9 1      20 180
19  72  62  67  -2   0   2 0.50  0.0    0  5.9 14 160   M    M  10 12     20 130
20  75  61  68  -1   0   3 0.00  0.0    0  9.2 18 110   M    M   8 12     24 110
21  64  60  62  -8   3   0 0.04  0.0    0 17.4 29  30   M    M  10 1      39  30
22  64  61  63  -7   2   0 0.39  0.0    0 18.7 32  20   M    M  10 18     40  10
23  67  58  63  -7   2   0 0.02  0.0    0 12.7 23  20   M    M  10 18     31  10
24  64  56  60 -10   5   0 0.14  0.0    0  9.5 17  60   M    M  10 1      22  40
25  74  60  67  -4   0   2 0.05  0.0    0  4.8 12 230   M    M   6 18     14 220
26  84  66  75   4   0  10 0.03  0.0    0  9.8 24 260   M    M   7 1      30 260
27  77  59  68  -3   0   3    T  0.0    0  8.8 17 270   M    M   8 128    21 280
28  68  59  64  -7   1   0 0.03  0.0    0  9.7 20  20   M    M  10 1      24  30
29  75  61  68  -4   0   3 0.45  0.0    0  6.0 14  20   M    M   8 18     16  20
30  65  59  62 -10   3   0 0.07  0.0    0  7.9 13  70   M    M   9 12     15  90
================================================================================
SM 2076 1724        78  33  3.22     0.0 270.6          M      228
================================================================================
AV 69.2 57.5                               9.0 FASTST   M    M   8    MAX(MPH)
                                MISC ---->  # 32  20               # 40   10
================================================================================
NOTES:
# LAST OF SEVERAL OCCURRENCES

COLUMN 17 PEAK WIND IN M.P.H.

PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) , PAGE 2

                                         STATION:  BOSTON MA
                                         MONTH:    JUNE
                                         YEAR:     2009
                                         LATITUDE:   42 22 N
                                         LONGITUDE:  71  2 W

[TEMPERATURE DATA]      [PRECIPITATION DATA]       SYMBOLS USED IN COLUMN 16

AVERAGE MONTHLY: 63.3   TOTAL FOR MONTH:   3.22    1 = FOG OR MIST
DPTR FM NORMAL:  -4.7   DPTR FM NORMAL:    0.00    2 = FOG REDUCING VISIBILITY
HIGHEST:    84 ON 26    GRTST 24HR  0.91 ON 18-19      TO 1/4 MILE OR LESS
LOWEST:     48 ON  1                               3 = THUNDER
                       SNOW, ICE PELLETS, HAIL    4 = ICE PELLETS
                       TOTAL MONTH:   0.0 INCH    5 = HAIL
                       GRTST 24HR     0.0         6 = FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLE
                       GRTST DEPTH:   0           7 = DUSTSTORM OR SANDSTORM:
                                                      VSBY 1/2 MILE OR LESS
                                                  8 = SMOKE OR HAZE
[NO. OF DAYS WITH]      [WEATHER - DAYS WITH]      9 = BLOWING SNOW
                                                  X = TORNADO
MAX 32 OR BELOW:   0    0.01 INCH OR MORE:  16
MAX 90 OR ABOVE:   0    0.10 INCH OR MORE:   9
MIN 32 OR BELOW:   0    0.50 INCH OR MORE:   2
MIN  0 OR BELOW:   0    1.00 INCH OR MORE:   0

[HDD (BASE 65) ]
TOTAL THIS MO.    78    CLEAR  (SCALE 0-3)   0
DPTR FM NORMAL    30    PTCLDY (SCALE 4-7)  11
TOTAL FM JUL 1  5670    CLOUDY (SCALE 8-10) 17
DPTR FM NORMAL    40

[CDD (BASE 65) ]
TOTAL THIS MO.    33
DPTR FM NORMAL  -106    [PRESSURE DATA]
TOTAL FM JAN 1    79    HIGHEST SLP 30.29 ON 16
DPTR FM NORMAL   -97    LOWEST  SLP 29.43 ON 29

[REMARKS]
#FINAL-06-09#

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can i get a link to the daily's for june 2009...for like BOS ive heard it was awful...but wasn't here for it.

this week looks like dog sh(t now. yay

Go to BOX site under climate, archived F6

000

CXUS51 KBOX 011200

CF6BOS

PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6)

STATION: BOSTON MA

MONTH: JUNE

YEAR: 2009

LATITUDE: 42 22 N

LONGITUDE: 71 2 W

TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND

================================================================================

1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

12Z AVG MX 2MIN

DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR

================================================================================

1 71 48 60 -4 5 0 0.00 0.0 0 12.6 20 260 M M 4 26 280

2 79 56 68 4 0 3 0.00 0.0 0 9.2 18 250 M M M 25 260

3 71 58 65 1 0 0 0.00 0.0 M 8.9 18 230 M M M 28 250

4 71 58 65 0 0 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.0 17 110 M M 8 26 100

5 64 54 59 -6 6 0 0.01 0.0 0 8.3 16 100 M M 10 20 90

6 68 54 61 -4 4 0 T 0.0 0 9.9 20 110 M M 7 23 110

7 83 60 72 6 0 7 T 0.0 0 8.0 20 280 M M 7 1 23 260

8 67 61 64 -2 1 0 0.00 0.0 0 8.3 16 110 M M 6 20 120

9 62 53 58 -8 7 0 0.10 0.0 0 9.6 21 90 M M 9 1 23 90

10 60 54 57 -10 8 0 T 0.0 0 6.6 12 70 M M 10 18 14 70

11 58 55 57 -10 8 0 0.20 0.0 0 7.4 12 90 M M 10 18 15 70

12 74 54 64 -3 1 0 0.56 0.0 0 5.0 14 300 M M 8 18 17 280

13 69 61 65 -2 0 0 T 0.0 0 8.2 17 110 M M 6 20 110

14 63 57 60 -8 5 0 0.20 0.0 0 7.4 15 110 M M 9 1 17 110

15 62 56 59 -9 6 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.5 14 90 M M 9 16 90

16 62 54 58 -10 7 0 T 0.0 0 7.2 13 100 M M 5 1 16 100

17 75 53 64 -4 1 0 0.00 0.0 0 8.6 18 200 M M 5 22 190

18 68 56 62 -7 3 0 0.43 0.0 0 8.5 16 160 M M 9 1 20 180

19 72 62 67 -2 0 2 0.50 0.0 0 5.9 14 160 M M 10 12 20 130

20 75 61 68 -1 0 3 0.00 0.0 0 9.2 18 110 M M 8 12 24 110

21 64 60 62 -8 3 0 0.04 0.0 0 17.4 29 30 M M 10 1 39 30

22 64 61 63 -7 2 0 0.39 0.0 0 18.7 32 20 M M 10 18 40 10

23 67 58 63 -7 2 0 0.02 0.0 0 12.7 23 20 M M 10 18 31 10

24 64 56 60 -10 5 0 0.14 0.0 0 9.5 17 60 M M 10 1 22 40

25 74 60 67 -4 0 2 0.05 0.0 0 4.8 12 230 M M 6 18 14 220

26 84 66 75 4 0 10 0.03 0.0 0 9.8 24 260 M M 7 1 30 260

27 77 59 68 -3 0 3 T 0.0 0 8.8 17 270 M M 8 128 21 280

28 68 59 64 -7 1 0 0.03 0.0 0 9.7 20 20 M M 10 1 24 30

29 75 61 68 -4 0 3 0.45 0.0 0 6.0 14 20 M M 8 18 16 20

30 65 59 62 -10 3 0 0.07 0.0 0 7.9 13 70 M M 9 12 15 90

================================================================================

SM 2076 1724 78 33 3.22 0.0 270.6 M 228

================================================================================

AV 69.2 57.5 9.0 FASTST M M 8 MAX(MPH)

MISC ----> # 32 20

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I love the maps BTV puts together... here's April's total precipitation.

Find the Mount Mansfield upslope region.

Locally here in Stowe, precipitation ranged from 4" on the east side of town, to nearly 8" on the western border of town at 4,000ft on Mansfield's ridgeline.

"Mt. Mansfield had the most with 7.97" while Averill in the far northeast corner of Vermont had 1.43". The mean was 3.17"."

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Well, coming back from the airport it looked very green to me compared to what I've been looking at recently. Up here though it's not even close to the full leaf out predicted by Blizz for 4/1. CT is torchville. Too many J's when you should be hitting the books?

aced my final yesterday, 92 in the class I have one in tomorrow and I feel fine about it, 98 in the class i have one in Thursday and 94 in the one Friday. You lose. They're all 4000 level classes too. Na na na boo boo

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aced my final yesterday, 92 in the class I have one in tomorrow and I feel fine about it, 98 in the class i have one in Thursday and 94 in the one Friday. You lose. They're all 4000 level classes too. Na na na boo boo

Evidently you are not an english major. Your GF seems like such a pleasant gal, what a shame.

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YOU'RE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL. You literally have NO place in this discussion. I hope you're doing well in your art and gym classes :lol: :lol: :lol:

:weenie:

I was agreeing with you. English majors are a joke. And my classes are honors physics, honors calc, psych, english, and honors economics. Actually not that hard of classes but I'm just ready to be done with high school.

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What are you talking about? Absolute blowtorch through 4/21? It was a blow torch for ONE week from April 14- April 21. Aside from that it was a 'normal month' and the last week of the month has been solidly below normal.

Its been the same up here. I don't know why you guys have this idea that April has been a wall-to-wall torch. You take out that one 7-day period and it may even be below average the rest of the time.

The bottom line is also that the past 9 days have been steadily below normal. I know you like to say since I'm in Northern VT it couldn't possibly reflect the pattern down there in SNE, but snow this time of year as low as it was, is not normal. It takes a below normal airmass... you were not torching while it snowed up here. That is reflected by BDL being solidly below normal these past 9 days.

BDL

ORH

Don't want to cloud the discussion with facts, but this never-ending torch or all torches that some of you keep talking about, just hasn't been there this month aside from 1 seven day period. Keep riding that one week though and ignore the last 9 days. I can see how METS get frustrated trying to show that a pattern change has taken place when some just keep saying its an all-out torch. If you can't see the change between April 14-21 and April 22-30 then, well...

Your own post here contradicts what you are saying. The first 21 days at BDL were hot. Before the mega torch, it averaged about +3-4 eyeballing. The final 10 days were coolish but the first 20 were torchy. To say April was not warm is to have not lived through it.

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