blackngoldrules Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 LOL WUT STORM?? That giant pear with the big mouth isn't doing a very good job steering that low toward the northeast is it! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Once again, I am reminded how Miller Bs NEVER, EVER really perform for PA. The transfer of energy is usually over PA leaving most of us with nothing. The upslope areas do well because the mountains strip the moisture for the rest of us. When I hear Miller B for the northern Mid Atlantic. I just move on with little additional thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Once again, I am reminded how Miller Bs NEVER, EVER really perform for PA. The transfer of energy is usually over PA leaving most of us with nothing. The upslope areas do well because the mountains strip the moisture for the rest of us. When I hear Miller B for the northern Mid Atlantic. I just move on with little additional thought. This is Miller A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 lol GFS coming in flatter than A tits First thing I saw at work this morning when I went to check on the morale of the thread to see what was happening via my phone... made me lol a little. Need to look over everything I missed this afternoon but don't count me as someone thats surprised the GFS bailed even further today, or throwing in the towel. Good chance this comes back some IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Weren't we at this point on December 17, 2009? Pretty much throwing the towel on a storm for being too far south? Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Weren't we at this point on December 17, 2009? Pretty much throwing the towel on a storm for being too far south? Just saying... *Grabs torch and pitchfork* That storm shalt not be mentioned in the presence of myself and Wmsptwx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 This is Miller A. If you think so. You think just because it has a GOM genesis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Weren't we at this point on December 17, 2009? Pretty much throwing the towel on a storm for being too far south? Just saying... Well, good point. But there was an established NW trend for all of those storms wasn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Weren't we at this point on December 17, 2009? Pretty much throwing the towel on a storm for being too far south? Just saying... Well, good point. But there was an established NW trend for all of those storms wasn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 DT is bullish for 2-4 for York and Adams. Who knows, maybe it will come back north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Once again, I am reminded how Miller Bs NEVER, EVER really perform for PA. The transfer of energy is usually over PA leaving most of us with nothing. The upslope areas do well because the mountains strip the moisture for the rest of us. When I hear Miller B for the northern Mid Atlantic. I just move on with little additional thought. This is Miller A. Indeed. Where the hell did you hear it's a Miller B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 DT is bullish for 2-4 for York and Adams. Who knows, maybe it will come back north? Hey, I am in Adams, ill take that. So that means Lancaster and Philly would see 4-6"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Weren't we at this point on December 17, 2009? Pretty much throwing the towel on a storm for being too far south? Just saying... We were in a somewhat similar situation the few days up to the Feb 5/6th,2010 storm as well (insert obvious I don't expect 2 feet of snow disclaimer). The afternoon of the "might see 2 inches..perhaps three south of the turnpike" AFD like 2 days before the storm still lives in infamy in my mind haha. But yea that one kept sneaking north right up to when it hit. Miller A's will creep up on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 *Grabs torch and pitchfork* That storm shalt not be mentioned in the presence of myself and Wmsptwx. Oh whoops, i probably mentioned a worse one lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Indeed. Where the hell did you hear it's a Miller B? Just the HPC is all. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=qpfhsd AS IS TYPICAL WITH THESE MILLER B TYPE SYSTEMS SOME 2-3 DAYS OUT...MULTIPLE COMPETING FACTORS WILL LEAD TO A LOW CONFIDENCE FCST IN TERMS OF SNOWFALL POTENTIAL. In reality, probably closer to an A/B hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just the HPC is all. http://www.hpc.ncep....php?disc=qpfhsd In reality, probably closer to an A/B hybrid. That's odd. I don't see any energy transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Oh whoops, i probably mentioned a worse one lol. To MAG's house, let's do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 We were in a somewhat similar situation the few days up to the Feb 5/6th,2010 storm as well (insert obvious I don't expect 2 feet of snow disclaimer). The afternoon of the "might see 2 inches..perhaps three south of the turnpike" AFD like 2 days before the storm still lives in infamy in my mind haha. But yea that one kept sneaking north right up to when it hit. Miller A's will creep up on you. no you totally forgot the key part of that....it was Martin, who I've grown to love: "Hard to see more than an inch or two, maybe three south of the Turnpike" Need that "hard to see" in there. I have to give him.....his style is to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 That's odd. I don't see any energy transfer. Ok, my interest in this storm is returning a little. Perhaps they are considering the phase over the MS Valley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Ok, my interest in this storm is returning a little. Perhaps they are considering the phase over the MS Valley? Not sure. I don't think we have a solid idea on this until late tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Not sure. I don't think we have a solid idea on this until late tomorrow. Absolutely agree there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Actually, Mag is off the hook, Atomix brought up the date that should never be named lol. 5-6 Feb 2010 was even worse here, if you can believe that...haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 No way...lol. We got like 4 in that one....but 0.8" in Feb. WTH do we have to do to get that dang thing to go all the way up the coast like they used to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we need to start with a deep negative tilting trough and I dont see one with this storm. Side note, must admit that the discussion Phil posted on the main forum about this storm is probably the single best post I have seen on this forum in a year. BZ to him on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 no you totally forgot the key part of that....it was Martin, who I've grown to love: "Hard to see more than an inch or two, maybe three south of the Turnpike" Need that "hard to see" in there. I have to give him.....his style is to the point. Haha oh I def remember...just had to throw it in there. Seriously though, I remember going into the storm it was looking like a decent warning down here for Blair fading to high advisory/low end warning up in UNV, while ground zero was near at or under the turnpike. That really heavy band managed to crawl up even further up into us for awhile. Here comes the I 80 North gang for ya Mag!!! LOL. Careful, the driveways icy. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r-ville Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Once again, I am reminded how Miller Bs NEVER, EVER really perform for PA. The transfer of energy is usually over PA leaving most of us with nothing. The upslope areas do well because the mountains strip the moisture for the rest of us. When I hear Miller B for the northern Mid Atlantic. I just move on with little additional thought. Top 10 snow storms prior to 2010 in PA - case study of 11. 7 MB's - 4MA's. http://berkswintercast.tripod.com/id85.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Top 10 snow storms prior to 2010 in PA - case study of 11. 7 MB's - 4MA's. http://berkswinterca...d.com/id85.html Out of those, a majority transferred energy to the coastal South of PA. Only one that I can find transferred over PA and it was the 1909 storm. Kind of an interesting note about that one. about a snow lovers dream coming in #4 is the Christmas Day Blizzard of 1909, the storm was a classic Miller B storm with a primary low in the Midwest transferring to a coastal low on the SC coast. It is the last single* storm to dump 20” or more on Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 This place died. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 DC's had a worse winter than we've had. I'll be happy for the weenies down there if they get a storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 DC's had a worse winter than we've had. I'll be happy for the weenies down there if they get a storm. DC had 70"+ 2 years ago while we were getting shafted. I'm not sympathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 0z nam coming in much different @ 500 in the plains. Looks like it's coming a bit further north than 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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