kerplunk Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'm confident any squall line that develops will either peter out just prior to reaching UNV or will be split apart at the last moment by the magic invisible shield that so often robs the immediate State College vicinity from witnessing awesome storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'm confident any squall line that develops will either peter out just prior to reaching UNV or will be split apart at the last moment by the magic invisible shield that so often robs the immediate State College vicinity from witnessing awesome storms. Since I've lived here, I don't know why, but cold frontal squall lines in the winter seem to do better than ones in warm season. I don't know if that has to do with having to need a lot of dynamics to get one in the winter or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 HBG cashed in all spring/summer/fall with these squal lines (we are still picking up trees from 'em). Doubt this can make it still impressively over the range, but I hope it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplunk Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Since I've lived here, I don't know why, but cold frontal squall lines in the winter seem to do better than ones in warm season. I don't know if that has to do with having to need a lot of dynamics to get one in the winter or not. Hopefully, that will be the case today. Could sure use something (anything) wintry at this point. You're definitely right about winter not being over in Feb and March (or even April) in these parts. The sad part is the sun is getting high enough that it usually doesn't last long. That said, we've had some memorable storms during that time period. Would rather experience a good 20+ inch thumping with crazy winds that's gone in a week than multiple average events that stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I was going to bed late last night and saw "heavy snow" in the forecast wording for today! I thought my mind was playing tricks on me but nope, looks like we have a cool little event heading here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hopefully, that will be the case today. Could sure use something (anything) wintry at this point. You're definitely right about winter not being over in Feb and March (or even April) in these parts. The sad part is the sun is getting high enough that it usually doesn't last long. That said, we've had some memorable storms during that time period. Would rather experience a good 20+ inch thumping with crazy winds that's gone in a week than multiple average events that stick around. Yep, me too. One thing that really surprised me: I looked at snowcover numbers for UNV on AccuWx Pro in Feb, and 3 of the last 4 Febs, we had at least one inch on the ground for most of the month. I was like what? So being a nerd, I looked at the temps, precip, and snowfall, and I think it was due to having mixed events soon after snow fall putting on a crust. Plus, it would drop down fast from say 8 inches to 2 inches and then melt slower, so likely that's it. The other thing I forgot from last year - we had those two days in the mid-60s 2/17-18, then 6 inches of snow 2/20-21! Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 So, a person on Twitter who has lived here for 15 years said to me "winter's pretty much over as usual right? We don't have much snow in Feb around here". I responded no, actually Feb/Mar are climo more likely to give us major snowstorms, then mentioned the 13-15 inches we got in early Feb 2010. I got several Tweets asking what I was talking about, don't remember anything like that. One person said I don't remember us getting anything over 6 inches for years. I mentioned our surprise snowstorm in March last year when we got 10 inches, no one remembered it. Human memory is very unreliable but it seems especially bad with weather. Lol what you were talking about? Only the biggest storm to hit UNV and south since either the '03 or '96 storm depending on where you are in southern PA. Then you tack on the fact that another big storm hit 4 days later. Usually in the weenie world we see the other end of the spectrum but it def goes both ways. Theres always the ever popular "winters were so much worse back in the day". I think it would make a great weather related psychology research topic for somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 gotta love bow echoes and snow. Zac/easternuswx must not have seen this yet, this is right up his alley. HOLY!! I see it now. lol. Just woke up... Long night haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 HBG cashed in all spring/summer/fall with these squal lines (we are still picking up trees from 'em). Doubt this can make it still impressively over the range, but I hope it can. When you see low and mid level lapse rates like these, you can pretty much render the Allegheny front a moot point. Although given the timing, you might lose some of the daytime heating farther east. Still though, this is going to be interesting to watch unfold. Low level lapses already over 8ºC/km with the daytime heating and the cold pool with mid level lapses over 8ºC/km is starting to press into PA. Thats crazy.. especially the mid levels. Low level Mid level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Radar in Ohio is starting to get going. Should be an interesting evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Radar in Ohio is starting to get going. Should be an interesting evening. Precip getting together nicely. Echos in the upper 30s dbz moving through Cleveland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Precip getting together nicely. Echos in the upper 30s dbz moving through Cleveland... Very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not worried. Apps will eat it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not worried. Apps will eat it up. Not this time. MUHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Who wants to make a bet. I say accumulating snows don't make it east of Clearfield to Johnstown. My bet 5 bucks sent to you're address lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Who wants to make a bet. I say accumulating snows don't make it east of Clearfield to Johnstown. My bet 5 bucks sent to you're address lol. So you are saying at least .25-.5" won't even make it to State College? Ya i'll take that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 First cloud-to-ground lightning strike just showed up on my radar in Mercer County... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 First cloud-to-ground lightning strike just showed up on my radar in Mercer County... Radar is really starting to crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I hope it survives to Hazy...haven't seen a good snowburst since last March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Serious question: there ever been a sever t-storm warning during a snowstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Starting to snow in Pitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Serious question: there ever been a sever t-storm warning during a snowstorm? I can't recall ever seeing one, but I'm guessing there has been. Just like the warnings earlier this month, all you need is the wind to verify and these snow squall lines usually do pack some wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Visibility back in Youngstown almost got down to 0. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=pqr&sid=KYNG&num=48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I can't recall ever seeing one, but I'm guessing there has been. Just like the warnings earlier this month, all you need is the wind to verify and these snow squall lines usually do pack some wind. Sure has... BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LINCOLN IL 602 PM CST TUE FEB 11 2003 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LINCOLN HAS ISSUED A * SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... MARSHALL COUNTY IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS * UNTIL 645 PM CST * AT 602 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM...WITH HEAVY SNOW... OVER SPARLAND...OR ABOUT 6 MILES NORTHWEST OF LACON...MOVING EAST AT 65 MPH. * THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WILL BE NEAR... HENRY LACON VARNA TOLUCA WENONA DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH WILL ACCOMPANY THIS DANGEROUS STORM. GO TO A BASEMENT OR AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. ABANDON CARS AND MOBILE HOMES IF YOU ARE IN THE WARNED AREA. REPORT SEVERE WEATHER OR ANY STORM DAMAGE TO YOUR LOCAL ESDA...OR THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY...FOR RELAY TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. STAY TUNED FOR LATER STATEMENTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Who wants to make a bet. I say accumulating snows don't make it east of Clearfield to Johnstown. My bet 5 bucks sent to you're address lol. I'm going with 0.5-1.0" in State College. Perhaps 0.25-0.5" on the roads. I'd make an official bet, but am too lazy to actually deal with the logistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Thanks guys, that's crazy. Bring it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Shift SE and wowowowow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Sure has... That's pretty awesome... thanks for posting it! Enjoy the snow squall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormspotterlive Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 GFS is an all out snow storm for next weekend north of I78 and the pa turnpike from central pa on west 12+ this run. I'll be up west of the state college area for my ice fishing trip. 3 models now saying storm could be a great week of model watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 GFS is an all out snow storm for next weekend north of I78 and the pa turnpike from central pa on west 12+ this run. I'll be up west of the state college area for my ice fishing trip. 3 models now saying storm could be a great week of model watching. Ya. Starts as snow for everyone probably 4"+ then to ice/rain south of State college. But, it will change a million more times. Hopefully it goes a bit SE and we all enjoy snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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