dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think we are in excellent position for a productive December As well, Why try to rush it when we have no control over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There were a few Tobin Tumbler posts early in December too. Some of those were mine. I had high hopes for the pattern we had in November, and when that failed, and we moved back into a less than preferable regime for December, I was less than happy haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I feel like every year it's the same issue with some getting antsy. It'll get there. Year in and year out folks expect winter to start in June.....and guess what, we see a HECS preceede foliage fallout and it still wasn't enough...Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Getting the Pac to cooperate heading into December is key, And if we can get a -EPO and a -NAO as well i think winter will get kicked off to the fashion that everyone wants to see, Let the cold and snow build in the areas that will help us retain cold this winter now The biggest key is getting the EPO to go negative...even if only for a time. Get that arctic cold dump into Canada as a refresher. Both December 2007 and December 2008 were RNA (-PNA) and -EPO patterns....technically 2007 ended up positive as a whole that month due to later in the month, but the good period that month was a -EPO/RNA pattern, basically the first 3 weeks. Both months saw that gradient pattern that we can cash in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser24 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Whats the 12z Euro showing today in regards to a possible pattern change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 The biggest key is getting the EPO to go negative...even if only for a time. Get that arctic cold dump into Canada as a refresher. Both December 2007 and December 2008 were RNA (-PNA) and -EPO patterns....technically 2007 ended up positive as a whole that month due to later in the month, but the good period that month was a -EPO/RNA pattern, basically the first 3 weeks. Both months saw that gradient pattern that we can cash in on. Its this very pattern that will allow me to catch and ultimately conquer Mt. Baldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Whats the 12z Euro showing today in regards to a possible pattern change? Your query will not be acknowledged until it is posed in bold font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 The biggest key is getting the EPO to go negative...even if only for a time. Get that arctic cold dump into Canada as a refresher. Both December 2007 and December 2008 were RNA (-PNA) and -EPO patterns....technically 2007 ended up positive as a whole that month due to later in the month, but the good period that month was a -EPO/RNA pattern, basically the first 3 weeks. Both months saw that gradient pattern that we can cash in on. Yeah, The -EPO as you stated is the key to keep canada in the freezer as to bode well for us down stream, 2007-2008 was a great gradient pattern setup for most of us in the Northeast, A repeat would surely be welcomed, Just need to watch things develop out west, The Pac is justs crap right now, Until it changes we wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser24 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Very funny 40/70 Benchmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 The biggest key is getting the EPO to go negative...even if only for a time. Get that arctic cold dump into Canada as a refresher. Both December 2007 and December 2008 were RNA (-PNA) and -EPO patterns....technically 2007 ended up positive as a whole that month due to later in the month, but the good period that month was a -EPO/RNA pattern, basically the first 3 weeks. Both months saw that gradient pattern that we can cash in on. I think those are some of my favorite types of patterns. It's a classic cold air dump into Canada, and then spreads out (more like oozes out) into the northern CONUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Your query will not be acknowledged until it is posed in bold font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think those are some of my favorite types of patterns. It's a classic cold air dump into Canada, and then spreads out (more like oozes out) into the northern CONUS. Yes, Let it bleed in here slowly so it stays awhile before the pattern reloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Very funny 40/70 Benchmark. Its Ray, bro Oh yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I remember drawing this up in December 2008 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Thse patterns are precisely how those of us on the cp clean up in December, save for a rouge, exquisitely tracked blockbuster...sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I remember drawing this up in December 2008 ... SWFE.....ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser24 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ray I'm just going to disregard any of your nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I remember drawing this up in December 2008 ... Great call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ray I'm just going to disregard any of your nonsense. Disregard these :weenie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Thse patterns are precisely how those of us on the cp clean up in December, save for a rouge, exquisitely tracked blockbuster...sign me up. It's all about the high pressure. Highs to our nw-nne = Felger pants tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser24 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ray what did I ever do to you? How is someone a so-called "weenie" just because of bold font. I just like the way it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 SWFE.....ftw mwuahahahah picture monty burns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It's all about the high pressure. Highs to our nw-nne = Felger pants tent. Right...those patterns inherently have a well placed +pp.....usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ray what did I ever do to you? How is someone a so-called "weenie" just because of bold font. I just like the way it looks. I'm only messn' with you, man. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Ray what did I ever do to your weenie. I just like the way it looks. Dear God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Closer24...the OP Euro will not be of much use for pattern change ideas later this month as it only goes out to about the 20th and its skill level is poor past about D7. When the ensembles come out, they give a better picture as they go out further and have better skill than the OP run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Right...those patterns inherently have a well placed +pp.....usually. Whereas Will can clean up with more of a retreating high and an upslope 080 or so, wind direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Right...those patterns inherently have a well placed +pp.....usually. congratulations on your well placed +pp. Glad to hear you're not splashing on the lid anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Whereas Will can clean up with more of a retreating high and an upslope 080 or so, wind direction. Right....nuances like that not withstanding, those are generally favorable regimes for the cp because they limit marine intrusion, which is paramount so early on in the cold season. There are times when the +pp is displaced off to the nne that it will be of most benefit to my locale, relative to the rest of sne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 mwuahahahah picture monty burns release the hounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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