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My guess is, given the LCLs and 0-1km shear along with the inverted-V sounding, that the "tornado" was actually a gustnado. But who knows.

could be. I've also heard that spotters in that area are a little quick to call stuff in

good call on OK's failure lol

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Ok, seriously? Two or three hours, the temp in MKE was around 60 with fog. Now, at 10, the temp is 82, with dews into the 70s. Pretty clear the warm front just moved through. Seems pretty primed for action.

Looks like it's back into the 60s at MKE, so it might have just been a temporary spike.

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just looking at the composite radar here (courtesy of the nws, via screenshot from my desktop), a system this magnitude makes you humble in the extent of mother nature's fury.

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I have never seen such a squall stretching from the northern end of Nebraska to central Oklahoma that was curved with the isobars like this

01z or 8:00PM CDT last night

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Either way the talk over whether something did or didn't deserve a PDS watch is boring, only the nerdiest of the weather nerds notice anyways.

I figure they issue that kind of stuff based on potential anyway... if it looks like it's going to happen, then I would figure it prudent for them to put out the warning, PDS or otherwise...

Look at it this way...if you think you see smoke, are you going to wait until a room is fully engulfed before you warn anyone?

Yeah, maybe the storms didn't happen as "expected' but the NWS met seemed to think there was enough justification, and on some level the weather bore it out...

I agree with Alek...

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Hey now, lol, I am not a nerd. I love the weather and was frankly a little disappointed nothing really came to be in OK last night.

Tell me about it. Driving around for 6-7 hours only to see nickel-sized hail (and a nice rainbow, to be fair) was a bit disappointing. Oh well. :)

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Headed home, MAY go after some cells if they look decent, but not expecting much. New MD just issued:

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1337

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1145 AM CDT TUE JUN 21 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...SERN MN...ERN IA...MUCH OF SRN WI...CNTRL AND NRN

IL

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 211645Z - 211915Z

A GENERAL INCREASE IN CONVECTIVE COVERAGE IS EXPECTED THIS

AFTERNOON...AND A WATCH MAY EVENTUALLY BE NEEDED.

SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS A LOW OVER WRN IA...WITH A BROADLY CONFLUENT

WARM SECTOR WITH THETA-E AXIS FROM SERN MN INTO NRN IL. MORNING

SOUNDINGS SHOWED EFFECTS OF EARLY CONVECTION WITH SOMEWHAT DRY JUST

ABOVE THE SURFACE TO ABOUT 850 MB.

AREAS OF HEATING...ALONG WITH GENERALLY CONVERGENT LOW

LEVELS...SHOULD RESULT IN AN ARC OF CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON. OTHER

STORMS ARE LIKELY TO GENERATE/STRENGTHEN NEAR THE WARM FRONT. WIND

PROFILES VEER WITH HEIGHT BUT ARE GENERALLY MARGINAL...YET

SUFFICIENT FOR SUPERCELLS. MARGINAL HAIL WITH RELATIVELY WARM MID

LEVELS...AND A FEW TORNADOES GIVEN SUFFICIENT LOW LEVEL SHEAR...WILL

BE POSSIBLE. A FEW NWD MOVING BOWS MAY MATERIALIZE WITH TIME WITH

DAMAGING WIND THREAT.

..JEWELL.. 06/21/2011

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Tornado intercept that me and a buddy got yesterday west of York Nebraska. Multivortex Tornado

Nice video, though I don't see a multivortex tornado...

+1 to the driver for trying to keep the car out of the road, with more focus on making sure you're not in the way vs. trying to watch the tornado.

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nice meso scale update from Izzi

STILL SEEING SOME EVIDENCE OF THE DECAYING OVERNIGHT MCS AND ITS

LINGERING COLD POOL LATE THIS MORNING OVER CENTRAL ILLINOIS. RAPID

DEMISE OF REMNANT CLOUD COVER FROM THIS MCS AND CONTINUED SOUTHERLY

FLOW SHOULD EVENTUALLY RESULT IN MIXING OUT OF THE REMNANT COLD

POOL. SPC RUC BASED MESOANALYSIS INDICATES THAT OVERNIGHT MCS DID

OVERTURN MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES...HOWEVER UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS

INDICATE THAT ANOTHER PLUME OF STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES ARE

ALREADY BEGINNING TO ADVECT NORTHEAST INTO THE MID-MISSISSIPPI

VALLEY.

GIVEN THE GRADUALLY DECREASING MID-HIGH LEVEL CLOUD COVER POTENTIAL

EXISTS FOR SUBSTANTIAL HEATING/DESTABILIZATION THIS AFTERNOON. HAVE

SEEN A COUPLE OF ELEVATED SHOWERS AND STORMS DEVELOP IN THE VICINITY

OF REMNANT MCV OVER CENTRAL INTO NORTHWEST ILLINOIS. FAIRLY

IDENTIFIABLE SHORT WAVE EVIDENT ON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY OVER MISSOURI

WILL LIKELY RESULT IN INCREASING LARGE SCALE ASCENT TO THE EAST OF

THE UPPER LOW. WEAK SURFACE FEATURES MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO FIND

DISTINCT FOCUS FOR SFC BASED CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT AND DOES LEAD TO

SOME UNCERTAINTY IN ANTICIPATING THE EXACT EVOLUTION OF CONVECTION

THIS AFTERNOON.

FORECAST SOUNDINGS AND MODIFICATION OF MORNING RAOBS SUGGEST THAT

THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR MLCAPE VALUES OF 2000+ J/KG THIS AFTERNOON.

GIVEN THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE AND INCREASE IN LARGE SCALE

ASCENT/WEAKENING CONVECTIVE INHIBITION SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE AN

INCREASING COVERAGE OF THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON...WITH A GRADUAL

RAMP UP IN INTENSITY AND SUBSEQUENT SEVERE THREAT. FAIRLY POTENT

500MB JET IS STILL IN THE AREA WITH REGIONAL VWPS SHOWING 50-60KT

WINDS RESULTING IN 0-6KM BULK SHEAR VALUES OF 35-40KT...WHICH IS

SUFFICIENT FOR ORGANIZED SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS POSING A THREAT OF

LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS. WHILE TORNADO POTENTIAL IS

NOT PARTICULARLY HIGH...THE BACKED LOW LEVEL FLOW AND LOWER LCLS

OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS WHERE ATMOSPHERE WAS LESS DISRUPTED BY

OVERNIGHT MCS COULD RESULT IN A SLIGHTLY ENHANCED TORNADO

POTENTIAL THIS AFTERNOON. WITH TIME THIS AFTERNOON MID LEVEL FLOW

SHOULD BE WEAKENING SOMEWHAT AND LOW LEVEL WINDS VEER WHICH SHOULD

RESULT IN DECREASING LOW AND DEEP LAYER SHEAR AND A DECREASING

TORNADO THREAT.

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For all you Wisconsin people out there, the fixed layer significant tornado parameter is up to 3 near Madison Wisconsin. However the effective layer STP is not. (I wonder why there's such a difference.)

This may be my last day of virtual storm chasing. The contest is almost over and I think I've got enough chases to qualify. I'm not sure if I can do much to micro-manage my storm chasing today.

I wonder if southeast Michigan is going to get storms. 3500 CAPE and moisture convergence is high, SCP=4. Watch out.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1339

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1256 PM CDT TUE JUN 21 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...SERN MO...SRN IL

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

VALID 211756Z - 211900Z

STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY FROM SERN

MO INTO SRN IL AND A WATCH COULD BE NEEDED.

SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SIGNS OF AN MCV ACROSS SERN MO...WHICH WILL

CONTINUE NEWD INTO IL AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. A VERY MOIST AND

UNSTABLE AIR MASS EXISTS AHEAD OF THE FRONT...AND AREA PROFILERS

INDICATE 40-50 KT MEAN DEEP LAYER FLOW AND EFFECTIVE SHEAR WHICH IS

FAVORABLE FOR STORM ORGANIZATION. HAIL IS LIKELY WITH THE STRONGER

CORES...AND SOME CELLS MAY EVENTUALLY MORPH INTO NNEWD MOVING LINE

SEGMENTS OR BOWS WITH A DAMAGING WIND THREAT.

TORNADO POTENTIAL IS A BIT MARGINAL WITH LOW LEVEL WINDS VEERING

WITH TIME...BUT STRONG INSTABILITY...FAVORABLY LOW LCL/LFC HEIGHTS

AND EFFECTIVE SRH ON THE ORDER OF 100 M2/S2 MAY BE SUFFICIENT FOR

ONE OR TWO BRIEF TORNADOES.

..JEWELL.. 06/21/2011

..PLEASE SEE WWW.SPC.NOAA.GOV FOR GRAPHIC PRODUCT

ATTN...WFO...PAH...ILX...LSX...SGF...

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who thought there would be no convection at all (or close to it) in central OK?

Yeah that was defin surprising. I would've thought that with temperatures soaring so high and with the trough so deep and amplified we'd get at least a squall line down through OK. There was some shortwave ridging behind a lead wave that probably did it in further south.

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Dang, TOR warnings and the MSP NWS web site appears not to be functioning

This is yet another example of how bass ackwards our national priorities are. The NWS internet bandwith situation is unexcusable between the pages being down and offices not having enough bandwith to view storms on other radar sites.

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We're a lot more unstable than I expected to get today, hmm...

Storms appear to be trying to get going around Lansing. My guess is we'll probably get fairly widespread coverage, with some of the storms going severe due to the high levels of instability.

They fizzled out...

RUC and HRRR are in a agreement with a line of storms moving NE into SEMI around 01z

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