Stormlover74 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 May have to rethink that now. Newark hit 61 and all of central/south Jersey are in the 63-68 range already All along, I really thought that mid-upper 50's would be the warmest we would be able to get in my area and even that was pushing it. We shall see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 May have to rethink that now. Newark hit 61 and all of central/south Jersey are in the 63-68 range already 70 at Toms River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 May have to rethink that now. Newark hit 61 and all of central/south Jersey are in the 63-68 range already It says 60 here outside my office in Jersey City but it most definitely does not feel that way. I was outside just 5 minutes ago. I think due to the proximity to the water it makes it feel cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Up to 58 here now, although that may be a bit high due to poor sensor placement (a reason why I don't usually say much about our daytime temps IMBY). There was still over 10" on the stakes this AM. One is now at 10, the other at 9.5. Melt is accelerating in the most sun exposed areas, mostly under evergreens where not as much snow hit the ground in the first place and next to paved areas. However, it isn't a massacre yet, Here are pano shots front and back taken here at 1PM today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have around 3" even in this torch.... However, by tomorrow night, it should be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have around 3" even in this torch.... However, by tomorrow night, it should be gone. Well at least some of the larger snow piles aren't going anywhere. Based on what I have observed the melt occurring for those is minimal at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well at least some of the larger snow piles aren't going anywhere. Based on what I have observed the melt occurring for those is minimal at best. Yeah, those piles will be there well into April, even May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wow @ those snow amounts, we have almost no snow at all, I took a pic like 3 days ago and forgot about it until now. I'll upload it later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wow @ those snow amounts, we have almost no snow at all, I took a pic like 3 days ago and forgot about it until now. I'll upload it later on. Yup, most of the large piles are gone also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Per parents, we've now gone under 50% coverage of lawns back home in Monmouth County. So today - day 54 of consecutive days with 1"+ on the ground, will be the last of the stretch. It was an awesome run. NYC should make it to day 55, tomorrow morning, but highly unlikely they still have 1" Saturday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Tomorrow I will be under 50% of snow on the ground. 55 days is a hell of a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 2" left at Central Park today at 4pm despite a max temp. of 63. But it won't survive tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 2" left at Central Park today at 4pm despite a max temp. of 63. But it won't survive tomorrow. Has anyone thought of artificially cooling it to make it last longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 still over a foot in many places . only 1-2 inches melted. full sun areas lost more of course but still majority of yards over 8+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 still over a foot in many places . only 1-2 inches melted. full sun areas lost more of course but still majority of yards over 8+ There's still a crazy amount in the woods here...north facing yards probably have 4" but I just went for a run through the nature preserve and we still have hollows with 7-8" in well shaded places. The cooling effect was quite pronounced compared to walking in town or on the exposed ridges/hills, definitely got a lot a chilly in the shorts as I dipped down there. High of 60.2F in town....now 56.6/40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 13" left here. Lowest I could find was 8" on a west facing hill in the woods behind my house. Otherwise over a foot in most places, only lost a touch over 1" on average today. Torch-0 Pack-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 13" left here. Lowest I could find was 8" on a west facing hill in the woods behind my house. Otherwise over a foot in most places, only lost a touch over 1" on average today. Torch-0 Pack-1 How much snow did you get on Jan 11? I know CT did really well with that one and could be part of the reason for your great snowpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 13" left here. Lowest I could find was 8" on a west facing hill in the woods behind my house. I was surprised to hear you had that much initially, but going for a long run in the woods makes me understand why...this snowpack in shaded areas has massive resilience and the low dewpoints are keeping it pretty cool right at ground level. I was definitely amazed how deep my feet sank when I went off trail to pick up a couple bottles...still a solid 8" and maybe more on sheltered north-facing aspects. We'll definitely lose some as the dewpoints get higher tomorrow afternoon, but I don't think the heavily snow-covered wooded areas will do that badly tonight...they'll probably get down into the low-mid 30s right near the pack. Def agree that the snowpack held well today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 How much snow did you get on Jan 11? I know CT did really well with that one and could be part of the reason for your great snowpack. I believe he got 17 inches from that one. And yes I do agree with that notion of the staying power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There's still a crazy amount in the woods here...north facing yards probably have 4" but I just went for a run through the nature preserve and we still have hollows with 7-8" in well shaded places. The cooling effect was quite pronounced compared to walking in town or on the exposed ridges/hills, definitely got a lot a chilly in the shorts as I dipped down there. High of 60.2F in town....now 56.6/40 A large part of UHI comprises lack of tree cover and greenery. It's not just the amount of concrete, asphalt, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 13" left here. Lowest I could find was 8" on a west facing hill in the woods behind my house. Otherwise over a foot in most places, only lost a touch over 1" on average today. Torch-0 Pack-1 Down to 9" here across the Sound as of 10 minutes ago...as long as it doesn't rain...snow melts pretty slow around here...I've seen an inch or two hang on for more than a week in less than ideal conditions. (the glacier type inch / not the powder type) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 2" left at Central Park today at 4pm despite a max temp. of 63. But it won't survive tomorrow. With temps this evening and overnight in the 40s/50s, I wonder if they survive to tomorrow morning's snow depth report w/ 1" or more on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 How much snow did you get on Jan 11? I know CT did really well with that one and could be part of the reason for your great snowpack. 15", places in Central CT did better. Regardless, the SWE in the snowpack is fairly high which can be a reason its so hard to melt. To be honest I've never seen anything like this...temps above freezing all day, partial sunlight, mid february with highs in the 50's and only 1" off the snowpack in most places. That 60" in January is really showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 A large part of UHI comprises lack of tree cover and greenery. It's not just the amount of concrete, asphalt, etc. It's all exponential....lack of tree cover/greenery means the sun melts the snow more, which means you get less protection from surface heating during the day, making it hard to hold your snow pack...You have a series of positive feedback loops involved that make it very hard for areas like the South Shore to hold snow cover. You add in a lot of heat from cars and buildings, and it's really tough. Here in town, south-facing slopes are completely barren with patchy snow cover on north-facing areas....but once you get away from downtown, there's a lot more snow cover. Wooded areas at 350-400' elevation still have 100% coverage with some spots as deep as 8"... 46.1/39 FAIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Down to 9" here across the Sound as of 10 minutes ago...as long as it doesn't rain...snow melts pretty slow around here...I've seen an inch or two hang on for more than a week in less than ideal conditions. (the glacier type inch / not the powder type) Same here W. I actually went around and sampled tonight. 9" average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listarz Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Same here W. I actually went around and sampled tonight. 9" average. Doing well here also.Am going away for a few days. We'll see what's left when I return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Quite amazing how resilient your snow pack has been. Snow cover in Port. Jefferson and Smithtown has been running much closer to reports from coastal southern CT than to reports from most of the rest of the North Shore of LI. For instance, as of Thu morning, Mount Sinai had 2" on the ground, Centerport had 3" and Crab Meadow (0.5 mi from LI Sound near Northport) had 3". Most interesting is the difference from Mount Sinai, which is only about 3miles from Port Jefferson. (The co-op observer there is located about 2 miles from LI Sound, in the southern part of Mount Sinai). Their snowfall reports seem off - they only had 12.8" in the Jan 11-12 event, when you had 18". Here's snowfall and snow cover data from Jan-Feb 2011 for Mount Sinai: http://mesonet.agron...network=NY_COOP By the way, Upton only lost 1" of snow cover from Wed morning to Thu evening. They still had 4" as of 7PM Thu evening. I think they just might make it to Sat with 1" remaining. Down to 9" here across the Sound as of 10 minutes ago...as long as it doesn't rain...snow melts pretty slow around here...I've seen an inch or two hang on for more than a week in less than ideal conditions. (the glacier type inch / not the powder type) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Quite amazing how resilient your snow pack has been. Snow cover in Port. Jefferson and Smithtown is much closer to co-op stations in southern CT than to reports from most of the rest of the North Shore - probably relates to having less urbanization than areas further west on the North Shore of Suffolk. For instance, as of Thu morning, Mount Sinai had 2", Centerport had 3" and Crab Meadow (0.5 mi from LI Sound near Northport) had 3". By the way, Upton only lost 1" of snow cover from Wed morning to Thu evening. I drive through Mt. Sinai most days to go to the store or get gasoline (the town is a few hundred feet away) and the 2" report is bogus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 That makes me wonder how accurate/representative snow depth reports are from other co-op observers. They are trained, but it could be the Mt. Sinai observer is measuring snow depth mainly in the sun with a southern exposure, and not including enough areas in the shade with a northern exposure. I drive through Mt. Sinai most days to go to the store or get gasoline (the town is a few hundred feet away) and the 2" report is bogus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 That makes me wonder how accurate/representative snow depth reports are from other co-op observers. They are trained, but it could be the Mt. Sinai observer is measuring snow depth mainly in the sun with a southern exposure, and not including enough areas in the shade with a northern exposure. Location location location. If I measured in a barespot, I'd be reporting nothing (like ISP). It's usually a judgement call since snowcover is highly variable when it falls and becomes more variable with age, but some of these snowdepth obs are very obviously non-representative (obvious to those of us who live here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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