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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I have quoted JB a couple of times already. It is very difficult for cold temps to go straight down the spine of the Rockies. It will take the path of least resistance east or west of the Rockies. This time it went east. That much cold is going to spread out, MJO or no MJO. A huge discharge of cold air can get sent south by a cutter.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
While were are busying saying a post mortem for a month that hasn't occurred....LOL...enjoy the 18z GFS. That is one way to make the MJO mute. Cold overwhelms the pattern.- 1,666 replies
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December was lost. January may well be lost. But...
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The Dobyns-Bennett HS Marching Band will be in the Tournament of Roses Parade today. They are 73rd in line. Big day for the Carvers Gap family as three from our family(one of our own and two nieces/nephews) will be in Pasadena marching in that parade. Busses left the hotel at 6:00AM and are in route to stage for the parade as I type. ~360 band members will represent Kingsport as they wind through the parade route. They have already marched at the BandFest event and at DisneyLand on this trip. I have secretly been hoping for good weather this week both there and here(for travel and for marching). Hallmark Channel usually has the best coverage. I do hear that KTLA will have coverage of individual bands. D-B will be on national TV when they make the big turn in front of the grandstands. Going to be a long day marching for them as the route is like 5+ miles. So, big day for our family and community. Roll Tribe and Happy New Year!
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
American modeling completely caved to the Euro last night on the MJO. I still think there are some feedback issues on modeling and that there will be some variability in the LR pattern, at least more than is modeled on ensembles. However, I can remember plenty of years at UT when I was walking to class in a t-shirt during January and February. So, non-winters and warm winters do happen at this latitude. This has every semblance of one of those 1990s winters that were very warm...On the bright side, once every 2-3 years, there were bigs snows and/or bad winters. Even during warm winters, there were usually time frames where it could snow. Looks like there might be some sort of pattern shake-up later this month. Again, that would fit with the duration of this warm pattern that developed during early December. As I noted in June, if the MJO continues to fire...going to be an ugly pattern setting up shop. The main way we get out of this is with Atlantic blocking. On some modeling, one can see another way as well. The western trough lifts north around January 20th-ish and then sets up shop in a retrograding fashion over the Aleutians. Cold air bellies under the easter ridge and the pattern changes or relaxes for 7-14 days. However, though there are signs that indeed the trough will be in the East at the very end of the month...but that itself may be temporary if the MJO cycles back into 4-6 which there are signs of on the EMON. The Euro model is absolutely schooling the American suite right now. I do look a the GFS as it can show pattern changes. However, it really has not been correct very often since late November in the d8-15 range. I will continue to comment about it, but with the idea that the GFS can't be trusted at all in the LR. So, not much we can do. Warmth and likely record warmth of long duration is likely on its way. We will "hope" for a flip, but with full understanding this is going to take weeks and not days to get out of. While AN temps do makes sustained snowy patterns very unlikely, it can still snow even in a warm pattern. I think for this winter the best we can do is hope for a pattern change or relaxation during late January or early February. Very few despise a warm January more than me, but looks like that is the card we have been dealt barring a major change in modeling which still could happen. Those flips have happened in the past. Always important to remember that modeling doesn't control natural factors, but just tries to extrapolate the pattern forward just enough and produce a useful product. So, it is always possible that things can change, and we will watch for those. I do think this year we see the November pattern return, but with the understand we could do a January/February 2019 redux. This is why I hate Nino winters. They are late arrivals to the party and then sometimes...they just don't arrive. It would not shock me to see the fall pattern repeat...record warmth followed by a flip. Indeed, as John noted and the record lows for TRI indicate, 1955 did have cold later in the winter. As for rain, I think TVA sees it. They have been sending plenty of water downstream IMBY(I see the Holston multiple times per day) which I usually see prior to rainy time frames. Cherokee Lake, where my in-laws live, is sitting about its normal low pool for this time of year. So, looks like there is plenty of room up this way to story the excess rainfall forecast. Up until this week, urban streams had been running low and clear. And there is a reason this entire system of dams has been put into place...the TN River Valley is known fro incredible flooding(and droughts). Happy New Year to everyone. Wish I had better news, but plenty of time for outdoor stuff.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The very end of the GEFS has much AN heights in most of AK with that trough underneath. I suspect that trough would get kicked eastward if real. Keep that eastern pac ridge pushing east as a trend.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 0z GFS is the way to mute the warm-up. It has done. this four of the last five runs. Needs some support. The 0z GEFS is still locked into a nearly stationary and counter-intuitive stationary hemispheric pattern and give little support to the operational.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 0z CMC has shifted the eastern Pac ridge east as well. Just takes a minor adjustment to get that cold into the front range and let is spread eastward. Even if the mean pattern is an eastern ridge, periodic cold shots could make the pattern workable or at least not a full torch.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
See, that is what is so frustrating with the ensembles. They just stop the entire hemispheric pattern around Jan 10th. The preceding pattern has not been one that is nearly stationary for the entire Western Hemisphere. I think the key is to get that western displaced easter Pac ridge...budged eastward to where its influence is such that cold is at least forced down the front range. I can just about tell if the pattern is going to be seasonal or a torch based on those little vortices spinning south out of Alaska. If there is room between the eastern Pac ridge and the coast, they go there and build a monster ridge here. If they get pushed across the mountains, trough here. Sounds crazy after watching a locked pattern for several weeks, but the pushing back of the eastern ridge in time is probably depending on something as razor sharp as that.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
So, on this run we fight off the ridge out to 300...It is the GFS for sure, but very good run in terms of how important it is to have the cold cross into the front range. It will the spread east. If it cuts west it digs that pocket trough out West. Only need that EPO ridge nudged eastward about 300 miles from 18z and it forced a second shot eastward.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Quickly reverts back to an eastern ridge by 270...but that is an extra cold shot. Also would push back the warm-up by a day to the 12th...later than that due to the cold that was discharged. 500 is AN...surface is not yet, but will- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Eastern ridge replaced with a shallow trough at 258.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Probably going to still get a similar outcome as previous runs, but it does have another cold front at 240 and a piece of the PV that broke off and is head into the upper end of the trough in Canada.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah, much different run...similar to 18z Monday.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
0z GFS has moved the EPO ridge at 198 to the east.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
This is what I don't buy. Go to Tropical Tidbits. Go to the North Pole view of the 12z GEFS. Switch to 500 heights anomaly. Loop it. See all of the global wave activity until just under d10. Then it is like the brakes are put on the entire northern hemispheric system. It literally freezes. Just does not look realistic. Is it model feedback or do we see the entire hemispheric pattern lock-up?- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
What I can't tell is if they are just backing-off what would have been an extreme pattern or if there are some colder solutions working in. I am really pulling for a pattern flip just so some of the new folks can see one go down. Unlikely...but weren't they all when it was darkest?- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
12z EPS control drops an all out trough into the middle third of the country and is heading east at the end of the run. The GFS has done something like this for three straight runs. Makes me think we are going there is more potential for variability than the ensembles project in the LR. It is one of these deals that JB mentioned in his video a few days ago. He state rarely does a cold air mass go straight down the spine of the Rockies. As it heads south it usually cuts west or east of the mountain chain. When you watch these small vortices drop out of AK, about 60% of the time they cut west. But if one cuts east of the Rockies, it spread eastward and deepens the trough. Something to watch. Probably a slam dunk warm wx pattern...but once in a blue moon, a player misses a dunk.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah. You know it was crazy how dry it got IMBY during September. My yard still has places that are just cooked. Other than that, reasonably good rains. A lot of my fall greens are still alive...kale, turnips, Brussel sprouts, lettuce, and mustard. They were planted in extreme heat, have been snowed on twice, have seen the teens for temps, and 90s. Hardy plants!- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Something I have been watching...the forecast trends at 500 on TropicalTidbits. Pretty interesting. MJO looks less than favorable today(probably shouldn't us the real adjective). The Euro does loop back into the COD after warm phases and then it maybe it tries to go back again? LOL!!! Anyway, if you want some hope...the 12z GFS is serving it up.- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I know right. A warming trend in relation to temps that are already record highs! If there is ever a time for the Euro/EPS to be wrong...about right now would be good timing!- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
0z GEFS holds solid compared to previous runs. No surprise...- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Well, that is a different run from the 0z GFS...we can live with that out to 312. A cooler (than the previous day) overnight run? Wat?- 1,666 replies
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December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Check that. January 4-11 looks like the window..- 1,666 replies