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Carvers Gap

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  1. I read over in the MA forum that they have had internet issues and then also supercomputer issues w/ the Euro. Not holding my breath this go around with the Euro. At this rate, its 18z run might be running at the same time. LOL. Not a fun day in the Euro met offices!!!!
  2. This is a 10day temp map. Cold temps are modeled to surge past the cold air boundary shown. This is just a map in order to talk potential storm track IF the cold and STJ verify. Again, this is at range, so please be aware of that. Maybe I should write "experimental map." LOL.
  3. MJO progression is up for some debate. American modeling takes the tour. The Euro has been stubbornly refusing to take the tour. Most modeling stalls for a short time in phase 3 which is cold NW but cold temps surging into the SE. Pretty good correlation! I think we see a tour of debatable amplitude into the warm phases, but it looks relatively quick. It will be interesting to see it the cold overcomes the MJO in the Upper South. That is rare, but it can happen. I suspect it may have happened during one of those analog years above(but I need to check that). Anyway, this looks like a good blend of the Euro deterministic and American modeling. This is the Weeklies progression. If it gets back to 8, that to me is a very Nino signal.
  4. The 12z Euro is rolling....we don't get to say that every day at 4:05PM. If it is a crap bucket full of warm temps, I am calling this an off run.
  5. Some good nuggets from the CPC this afternoon. Take a look at those analogs. You can see the storm track on their d8-14 forecasts.... temp, precip, and risk of heavy snow maps.
  6. @fountainguy97I thought this was a great write-up by MRX and ties into your comments about winter wx this week... As for everyone else, lots of great information in here. National Weather Service Morristown TN 326 PM EST Tue Jan 24 2023 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .SHORT TERM... (This evening through Wednesday) Issued at 256 PM EST Tue Jan 24 2023 Key Messages: 1. A significant mountain wave wind event will develop on Tuesday night and continue through Wednesday; strong winds will mix down into the Valley on Wednesday. 2. Rain spreads into the area after midnight tonight, peaking Wednesday morning with a period of locally heavy rainfall possible. Discussion: A significant mountain wave event owing to a very dynamic low pressure system will impact our area beginning overnight lasting into tomorrow. The low currently brewing today in Texas will slide into the Ohio River valley by tomorrow morning bringing with it moderate to heavy rain showers, high winds in the mountains, and strong, gusty winds in the valley. High clouds associated with the incoming storm system will stream into the area through the remainder of the day. Rain will arrive in the overnight hours, and the bulk of the showers will push through during Wednesday morning per CAM guidance. NAM shows some marginal amounts of CAPE above the inversion at Chattanooga, and NBM had thunder, so could hear a roll of thunder in the convective line of showers as they rumble through overnight. Ahead of the system the 850 mb winds associated with the low level jet will strengthen to a 75 knot peak at 12z Wednesday morning. These potent winds and the strengthening pressure gradient along the mountains will promote a strong mountain wave wind event along our Appalachian Mountains. After the showers push out of the area, the low level inversion in the valley will lift and stronger winds will be able to mix down to the surface. NBM shows 25-30 mph winds in the valley along with HREF showing gusts to 40 mph. Overall going to be quite gusty behind the rain. The current wind advisories and high wind warnings for the zones are unchanged for this forecast package, everything looks to be on track for significant winds. The remainder of Wednesday will be mainly dry outside of an isolated shower or two, and the gusty winds will gradually begin to diminish from the southern valley north as the afternoon wears on. && .LONG TERM... (Wednesday night through next Tuesday) Issued at 256 PM EST Tue Jan 24 2023 Key Messages: 1. Wednesday`s high winds will continue to drop off in the evening. 2. Lingering wrap around moisture and steepening lapse rates with colder air aloft will produce scattered showers for late Wednesday night through Thursday evening. Greatest coverage will be late morning and afternoon Wednesday. Snow showers for the Plateau and higher terrain. A mixture of rain and snow for the Tennessee valley. Light snow accumulations anticipated for the higher terrain. 3. Another fast moving system Sunday and Tuesday. Discussion: For Wednesday night through Thursday night, overall broad upper trough across the Ohio and Tennessee valleys. Initial short-wave will have moved northeast with a good deal of wrap-around low- level moisture across the region. Another wave into the broad trough keeping cold air aloft with relatively steep low-level lapse rates. Model soundings show low-level CAPES of 40-60 which will produce scattered showers. Vertical temperature profile is cold enough for all snow for the Plateau and Mountains with a mixture of rain/snow showers for the valley. Best coverage of showers will be along and north of interstate 40. Model ensemble/probabilities show chances of 1 inch or more snow limited to the highest terrain. Overall for Thursday, a cold and raw day with low-stratu hanging around with temperature struggling to climb to 40 degrees in the valley. For Friday and Saturday, upper flow becomes more zonal with return of sunshine and moderating temperatures. For Sunday, a fast moving jet across the mid-section of the nation within the west to southwest flow aloft will move to the Ohio valley. Associated low-level southerly jet will increase the isentropic lift into the Tennessee valley producing widespread rain. GEFS and ECMWF ensemble shows light QPF amounts generally 0.25 inch or less. For Monday, drier conditions but cloud cover will be slow to erode. For Tuesday, a strong storm system will move toward the southern Appalachians. A lot of uncertainties on how much phasing occurs between the northern and southern jets.
  7. Thanks, man. I didn't see it at my normal haunts. So, I figured something was up. That makes me wonder if there was a data issue at 12z.........
  8. 12z CMC....might want to take a look at that if you live in middle and west TN. At d8-10, that isn't can kicking when talking details in a pattern vs long wave patterns. Details are going to change over and over again. That said, the CMC run is lights out if true.
  9. And when I say "less enthused" by the ensembles, I mean snow means are not as rigorous as ensemble runs. I think it is because they are so cold. The 0z GEPS(cold bias noted for that model) has -30F air at the border in Minnesota between day 9-11. And when ensembles show us in the 20s and 30s at that range....that is a very cold and extensive air mass. I said this yesterday, it is the cold which is getting my attention. So, we will see if it materializes. I still expect a strong warm-up after this potential cold(I will keep saying that so maybe it won't! LOL) and then another cold shot after that. When I made this thread, I fully expected this month to be VERY warm on average. GIF with man throwing a stack of papers up in the air.
  10. Modeling seems pretty consistent w/ the temp profile below. The GFS is colder w/ temps approaching 0 yet again this winter for areas north of I-40 w/ wind chills likely below zero. The EPS control seems like a good compromise between the 0z "warmer" CMC and bitterly cold 6z GFS. From what I can see on both the 6z GFS and 0z Euro control, there are several waves of cold. Many, many model runs will occur before this time frame arrives, so plenty could change in either direction.
  11. For now, I would say that chance for a strong(maybe severe) cold outbreak are growing, but for sure no certainty at this range. The STJ is active on modeling, and that has often been an error this winter I should note. Trying to find the boundary between cold and the SER is going to be key. That could be draped anywhere from along the Ohio Cincinnati to Jackson(MS) to Atlanta corridor. I would suspect operational modeling is probably over-doing frozen precip as ensembles do not have that. OTH, an over-running event is part of Nina climatology for the years cold can hang on into February(smaller cluster of those). The question I think which needs to be answered is if/when this cold comes into the Plains, just how far to the East does it make it? Most modeling shows an initial dump into the Plains, and then a resupply that surges eastward. It is on that surge eastward(which is maybe not quick) that multiple waves of precip are showing up on overnight modeling.
  12. Right now, all global deterministic models show a similar set-up right after the 200 hour mark. As others have noted, that is a long way out there. For now, I just look at the pattern to see if it supports wintry precipitation. Ensembles are slightly less enthused.
  13. Really that is a “turn out the lights” run by the GFS. That would be misery. The cold is also on the Cfsv2 at 18z. I do think western areas of the forum will see the most extreme cold. I do like the eastern storm tracks which are showing up which would be a Nino signal as well as a secondary Niña climatology track. Still a few days before the cone for cold and snow begins to narrow.
  14. I don’t know what lwh means...but I would be shocked if I got 17” of snow in Feb. LOL. I would gladly take half that total. That said, an overrunning event somewhere in the forum area (IF the cold materializes) would not shock me.
  15. @Math/Met, what are your thoughts about the upcoming wind event?
  16. Between the LR fantasy ice storms and the very real wind event this week....my lights are flickering. That would knock out power in some communities in NE TN.
  17. The cold worries me some. Severe cold is showing up on many runs across global models from time to time. The Euro Weeklies had a really nice high pressure strung from Alaska to Florida just funneling what I must assume is Siberian grade cold into the Lower 48. No idea if overrunning verifies, but the cold is on the table. Two crazy cold shots in one season would be impressive.
  18. Whew, it cold up here today. Winch chills this afternoon have been below freezing. It will cut right through you. Snow has been spitting off and on. This is my kind of January day.
  19. The Euro Weeklies had the same look(derived from 0z run). So, nice to see some consistency.
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