jm1220

Perhaps the closest recent event was the 2/25/10 retrograde bomb that gave Central Park 21” and parts of upstate NY over 36” but it likely was a warmer storm and a little faster moving than Mar 1888.

PA over 250 dead today. Horrifying. Really is a nationwide surge now vs regional like the summer and spring.

For the next 2 weeks there’ll be huge numbers coming out from there. The stay home orders should really help after the 20th or so at least for new cases. Hope they have enough hospital room.

Certainly not how NY is doing it. Cuomo has been threatening shutdowns again and although the outbreak is worsening here it’s nowhere near some of these badly affected Midwest states over the last 2-3 months.

16” where I was living then 10 miles east of JFK airport. First time I definitely heard thundersnow. Fast switch to mostly rain though on the eastern 1/2 of Long Island.

That’s unbelievable to me. IN is limiting hospital procedures and is nearing/at hospital capacity but has businesses open 100% capacity? No even talk of limiting capacity or closures?

Temps are also getting into the mid-upper 30s now so it may be mix rain/snow when it does hit the ground.

There were palm tree forests at the Arctic Circle when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Just sayin....

Those areas did well with the upslope favored events over the last couple of weeks. The lake effect/upper low system from a week or so ago for OH/W PA also produced a ton of upslope snow down to NC.

I think Worldometers tries to backdate those backlogs to the proper day(s) but unsustainable nonetheless.

If you mean 2009-10 it was a moderate Nino with a strong Subtropical jet, which is great for places south of Philly. 2010-11 was a moderate Nina I believe with strong blocking, which was a much better winter from Philly on north. DC had much less from what I know.

Wow-AZ with over 12000 cases today? A lot of that must be backlog?

Urban heat island and coastal affects already showing up this evening. Down to about 28 in my area but on the LI Sound/South shore and in NYC still in the mid to upper 30s.

Ugh. I remember living through that one at PSU and it being a nasty ice event.

Shame. This could’ve been a big snow event here with a little better interaction within the trough and some more space from the last storm.

So much for the stinger...

The thing is it's still happening? The CCB held on pretty well until about now where it's dying down south of ME. The rates/flakes were that crappy? My precip ended by 2pm and I'm not that far from you.

That's pretty awesome. You'll probably have another 2/5/10 equivalent there 2-3x this winter. F*** that event for me, 13" vs 1" was 20 miles apart and I was on the bad side of... anyway,

Thing is yes they do when the storms set themselves up. State College had the best outcome from the Mar 1993 superstorm and also Mar 1994 from how those evolved (over 24"), and in the early 2000s they did really well. Flip side is when a storm like 1/22/05 happens where I was dryslotted there after 2 hours of heavy snow but Long Island had 12"+. Literally seemed like a huge evolution towards big coastal storms happened as soon as I moved there. 2/14/07 was a particular kick in the gonads, for days models had us getting 18"+ but the mid level warming surged past us when we had about 6" and a ton of sleet after. Central PA can be a gold mine in the right setup but otherwise crap particularly east of where the upslope/lake effect dead stops which State College is about 20 miles east of.

How much I wished as an undergrad that Penn State was in Somerset County PA where parts average that much or more vs. State College's mid 40s less than 100 miles away (which we only made one year I was there). Want to get into insane gradients, head to lake effect/snowbelt country.

Yep. That dropped 4-6" here but I remember how it bombed in time for you guys and had slightly colder air like this one was supposed... The Feb trip I took though was a nightmare. I remember seeing a truck spinning out on the Mass Pike in my direction and just missing it. Getting out of NYC in a sleetstorm wasn't easy either. That sucked. When I got to Boston and kissed the ground it was raining as the storm was ending but there was 4-5" on the ground I'd guess. I moaned about how lousy 18-19 was but considering last winter it wasn't too bad snow-wise.

I remember driving up there in Mar 2019 for a work event and seeing the huge piles of snow and being jealous. In Feb that year I had to drive to an event at the Boston Museum of Science in a sleet/ice event by me to snow in MA and praying I wouldn't die on the Mass Pike. Fun times.

Given the reports I guess Northborough didn't do so well after all.

We've had our share of marginal big producing events down here such as 3/21/18 (total crusher, up to 18" of cement here), 11/15/18 (not a huge event but totally unexpected, Long Island had up to 6" when we were supposed to have brief snow mix to rain) and 11/7/12 right after Sandy, but 1-2 degrees higher would've probably meant those were nothing. You would just think with a bombing nor'easter it would make it happen, and none of those other than 11/7/12 were really classic nor'easters. 3/21/18 sort of but I believe that didn't come north of HFD-PVD. 11/15/18 was mostly a big WAA event that I think you guys got in on as well.

Yep, New England was in the mid-50s for a high yesterday and no cold air coming in before the storm. Big red flag. I had the same white rain today even in the meat of the CCB which in a better airmass would drop 2"/hr. Never would've thought Boston might end up with close to the same outcome. What a waste.