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MO/KS/AR/OK 2019-2020 Winter Wonderland Discussion
nrgjeff replied to JoMo's topic in Central/Western States
I infer from Lezak's public forecast that the dominant pattern is the trough Plains, which gives 3-4 winter storms for KCMO. Secondary pattern is not discussed in the public forecast; however, the LRC usually has one. I don't have access to the subscription, though maybe I should. Anyway I figure the secondary pattern is northwest flow. That's less juicy your way but probably my only hope over in Tenn. -
December/January 2019/20 Winter Speculation Thread
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah the next big cold shot (11-15 day) may dive into the West first. Therefore a Midwest cutter would not surprise me. Note I'm skipping next week and talking 11-15 day. KCMO TV Met Gary Lezak released his public winter forecast. The really good stuff is behind a paywall; but, I can infer plenty from the KC forecast. He's cold and snowy in KC. Unfortunately that is a Plains favorable storm track, which matches much of what has been observed since September. Said primary pattern is cutters, especially bad for southeast Tenn. However a secondary pattern is forecast. He does not discuss it on the public forecast; but, his system has a secondary pattern. That's the colder northwest flow when our region could benefit. Especially true if split flow and a slider or two from Texas through Georgia. I figure all that good stuff is more likely Jan/Feb. Will try not to sweat a mild December. Pun intended? Only if we need AC at Christmas like four years ago, lol!- 1,666 replies
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Since I'm a Met I can't really throw rocks at the CDC folks, lol! UT would have beat FSU except those turnovers. I wouldn't worry too much this early in the season. Jax congratulations on the Iron Bowl! That is always fun esp when it's at Auburn. Kansas wins the Maui Jim Invitational. Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Finally, jumped on some Cyber Monday ski lift tickets (Snowshoe and WinterPlace WV). Sorry if I cause a permanent SER now.
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I'll put in an order for Trans Nino by spring. Thank you!
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Lookout Mountain and Signal Mountain saw a dusting of snow this morning. Just rain in Chattanooga proper. Anybody surprised? Didn't think so. The only snowflakes I think I'll see this December (East Brainerd area) are the cheesy lights hanging on my house, lol!
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Saturday has more instability than Tuesday night's debacle. However Saturday low level winds look a bit veered. Probably be more interesting Friday in the Plains. At any rate Saturday would require some sort of meso-scale boundary set-up if those 850/925 winds don't back a bit on the models. I'm not counting on that. Good thing we have plenty of football, basketball and other sports this long weekend. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Yes we got flu shots. Mine may have mitigated a worse illness. I'm guessing this is the flu strain they didn't match perfectly, but better than nothing. Daughter was even milder, thankfully. Shows how the shot works differently for different people. Glad it did pretty well for her. Also remember the flu shot does nothing for a cold (different virus). Hopefully that puts the worst behind us for the season. In sports news Duke massively choked. Not sure whether to laugh or cry, since Kansas lost to Duke. Maui tournament rolls on with Kansas in the mix. Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving!
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If the IOD stays on full-tilt, it does kind of promote a Modoki shadow/imprint. However like pointed out above, sub surface is warm east. Perhaps most important, will be weaker convection when it's over/near Indonesia - thanks to cool SST anomalies. That's typically the warm phase, so muting it could help keep colder MJO phases.
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GFS is like those Choose Your Own Adventure books. Remember those growing up? They are awesome books. For a weather model, not really.
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
I was on my butt with the flu since the weekend. I'll take Dixie Alley severe as SER departs and worry about cold later. Just kidding! Well, not really, but... GFS is probably too fast with the frozen 11-15 day; however, one might use the GFS as the heads-up to start looking for cold on the EPS. The latter wants to dump West first. Anybody surprised there? Euro Op just went colder 6-10 day but the EPS is muted there. The latter still keeps the 11-15 day meh in the Southeast. All that said, I'm starting to buy a possible cold snap later the first week of December. Late 11-15 day forecasts are consistent with building North Pac to AK ridging. By then the West Pac typhoon stuff will have run its course; so, one would think the models could be trusted on such a broad pattern in a more core winter month of Dec. If the MJO does not die, but goes into a colder phase with some strength, that would also help. IOD and Nino favor the colder phases. Cooler (relative to normal) water near Indonesia could mute warmer phases. Might still be early for SSW to help with cold, but if that keeps up the table could be set for later in winter. Bottom line: I favor the slower west-to-east European version. Gets cold in here after December 1.- 574 replies
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
EPS just went colder hour 360. Normally that's banter, but check out the buffet line of teleconnections Carvers mentions just above. Issue has been a raging +WPO (warm) vs everything else cold. If a true +PNA develops (with Hawaii ridge) that could be what breaks toward colder here in the Southeast. -NAO too of course; but, some +PNA could fight off the WPO. Billiard ball meteorology, lol!- 574 replies
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11/12/19 Tennessee Valley Early Winter Event
nrgjeff replied to BlunderStorm's topic in Tennessee Valley
I missed this thread over the long weekend. Per water vapor and 12Z charts a true short-wave slide through the Deep South below Tennessee. Hence post-frontal snow verified at or above forecast. Chattanooga proper only had flurries - shocker there. Dusting fell up on Signal Mountain. Congrats to all who enjoyed snow, esp if above expectations. -
Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Agree with those who do not worry too much about the weekly forecasts. They've been awful past week 3 since the dinosaurs were around. Both have badly missed cold snaps. Rest of November probably will get back closer to normal for Thanksgiving. Works for me and Chattanooga's Holiday on the Landing. December could start out colder than shown. WPO wants to go positive which is a warm signal, but perhaps more consequential for the Plains. Meanwhile the PNA wants to go positive, a cool signal here. Models are clueless and maybe too warm. It's a rare event when I lean colder than NWP, but this might be one of those times. I'm still mild December, but not as warm as those weeklies.- 574 replies
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China Met Admin is going fairly mild for China this winter. If the current wavelength holds (Asia Bering North American) ABNA the USA could be mild too. Of course different wavelengths and MJO pulses will add variability. Like right now, brrrr.
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Typically I fade cold chasing rain and post-frontal junk. Chattanooga will whiff; that's easy! However the strength of cold air and lingering moisture may actually squeeze out the dusting Middle and Western Tenn. 2m temps are forecast around freezing, vs just-in-time cold there. Orographic areas (TRI) may see slight snow too. Knox to MRX is a crap shoot. Looking ahead I'm starting to buy the cold balance of November. How does it look for the rest of winter? Last year failed, but we have a key difference this year. GLAAM is going negative this year. It hung up positive last year, then the cold pattern broke down after December. This is is different, but I'm not promising all cold. I'm still a little bearish. However it should be colder than last year. QBO remains positive, but a downward trend would interest me. I'm almost 100% trend (delta) over initial reading. Downward trend would be bullish. NWP flirts with strato warming but I think it's still too early to bank on that. My gut says cold Great Lakes with occasional bleed South. SER may poke back up occasionally. At any rate I survived the time change. I'm getting used to the cold. I'm asking Southeast forum when the NC ski areas open. Attitude adjustment complete. Bring on winter!- 574 replies
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Yuge college football weekend! Tennessee will beat UK I believe. Alabama and LSU is kind of like forecasting snow with a 540 thickness. In Chattanooga that's only 50/50, lol!
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Tis the season for cold chasing snow in the Valley; and, chaos on 441. Perhaps I've never noticed in years past, but Chattanooga's Lookout Mtn, Raccoon Mtn, and Signal Mtn appear to all be peaking color at the same time top to bottom. Usually the top is past peak when the bottom is lit. Might be one more good weekend of foliage viewing. Better late than never. Also color looks good. Drought is not a deal killer if spring is rainy (it was). Rain returned recently, but that was after trees started going to sleep anyway. Spring rain is why they made it through the drought. Thinking about local hikes around Chatty. Other possibilities include Cherokee NF, and Little River Canyon, AL. Prentice Cooper would be great; but, I think it's closed for hunting attm. Anybody else notice good color top to bottom of mountains and ridges?
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2019/2020 Mountains and Foothills Fall/Winter Thread.
nrgjeff replied to Tyler Penland's topic in Southeastern States
Looks like you had awesome color this year. I got apathetic with the drought; but, should have known spring was rainy so all is good. Congrats to all who scored fantastic foliage! Now it looks cold through November. Anybody heard anything about NC ski areas opening dates? Thank you! -
Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
ECMWF weeklies keep delaying the break-down of the blocking by a week. So, another week of cold is shown. Nice having everything earlier with the time change.- 574 replies
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Cold chasing rain. You all know I fade everything though. As for November, all cold does have a 70% continuation. Sure LY failed but that's the 30%. So, we'll see if we can get a cold Novie. I'm trying to improve my winter attitude. Rather than dread cold short days, look fwd to Appalachian snow skiing!- 574 replies
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Snow in October. That's bearish winter right? LOL Weeklies both agree warm back half of November. Cancel winter. Just kidding! It's banter.
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Oh lovely. Anything really happening up that way? How much wind is really mixing down? Appreciate ground reports.
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I'm ready for May. Cold front hasn't even really crossed the Plateau and I'm already tired of winter. I mean it doesn't snow anymore in KCHA so what's the point?
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Escalated quickly per severe wx thread. Halloween front may finally break the SER. Always takes a few tries. Cool first half of November looks reasonable. Key will be second half. If November is mostly cold I will quit with my bearish barrage. Otherwise, the SER should occasionally visit per 07-08 and 08-09 winters. NWP will be awful for a few days with competing signals and competing areas of tropical convection.- 574 replies
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Tennessee Valley 2019 Fall Speculation/Forecasting
nrgjeff replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Thanks Carvers for the foliage report. Started getting some change around here too. Regrettably weekend rain and clouds will kill what could have been a nice outing between 2,000 and 4,000 FT. Maybe next weekend at lower elevations. Recent years the weekend after Halloween is still good. The 11-15 day actually might get cold per guidance. Looks like a little more support relative to the now 1-5 day stall. More ridging entire north Pac this time, if correct. Euro weeklies are cooler than the CFS, for those who don't get the Euro. Debate is whether the PNA lines up right, or opposite. Riding GOA or northwest NA? Easiest black/white or red/blue difference is Hawaii. Looks like the PNA will drive the outcome. Keep in mind it's a 4-point teleconnection. GOA, Hawaii, northwest NA, and our beloved Southeast. Few times last year and now recently the PNA explained otherwise strange blocking behavior.- 574 replies
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