cleetussnow

Every defense film room in the league is going to play the almost sack of Watson in overtime when camps open in the summer. Even a top defense needs to remember to wrap players up. Elite players forgot that in the uttermost clutch moment....the defense owns this loss not Allen. Allen has upside and so do the bills.

Don’t blame him. The play calling was very poor in the second half. The defense also contributed biggly. I thought he was poised for a 2nd year guy. pattern sucks.

Trying o decide to go to old forge for some riding. This will matter.

Thanks Wolfie for the pivotal maps. I need to use those and not the limited ttb maps.

I can’t help but notice the torch and rain on day 9. Things can change but it’s a repeating scenario.

It’s bad luck to be superstitious.

Happy new year!

Happy new year!

It’s a worth a chase. I have a camp up there.

Yeah saw that and then the gfs went in that direction as well. The trends are colder and that sort of started last night. Interesting.

12 z Gfs is trying to slip east. Not there yet, but trends are slightly less cutty.

GFS cuts January 6th situation. Long way out though and it’s the GFS.

Figured I’d just show myself in and take a seat. Not feeling good about the pattern for the next 2 weeks. It’s the 80s again.

this is a great thread. One storm I wish I had a chance to see is that lake effect storm out in western NY in November 2016. 60 inches in spots! We all saw the pictures. The threads from that storm were unreal. I love synoptic snows, but you cannot deny 5 feet! even if its fake ;-)

My first encounter with thundersnow - I thought for sure it would be my last and only experience with it. It was in upstate NY, I think around New Years in 2003(?). There was a 2 part storm with rain and ice in round one, and then a 15 inch snowfall when the storm hit the coast, so I am thinking it was a Miller B. I chalked up the thunder and lightening to the rainstorm lifting out and figured its a once in a lifetime deal. Since then, I probably experienced it 3 times, 2006 and 2016 certainly, and one time out snowmobiling in the adirondaks in the middle of the night, probably in 2007. That was WEIRD. My son and I were trying to get back in town before this particular storm got too ugly, but as we came out of the higher terrain the snow turned to rain and sleet and the skies were lighting up. He was 10 and freaking out for all the right reasons - Dark, cold, scary weather and alone! We made it. I don't recall thundersnow in 93 or 96 but there must have been, and I could have chalked it up to any number of other things, like a plow truck or a transforming blowing somewhere.

Was thinking that. Hmm

Yep. The thing had a gulf connection all the way to Maine, too.

(Referring to 93, meant to quote weatherproof) That was a well modeled storm...thinking it was brewing for 4 or 5 days in the media. Unusual for the time.

Forgot about feb 2006. That was the only major storm that winter IIRC. I got 25 in Westchester. Really powdery, and it should be on the top 3 list but... January 96 January 2016 I was upstate for ‘93. From where I was sitting, that was the grandaddy of them all. And I am OK with never seeing anything like it again. 3 feet of snow and 50 MPH wind. The kids won’t understand, but you could pick up a newspaper and read about this storm that was in Georgia on its way north a couple days later. It felt like Godzilla was coming! Nowhere to hide.

I thought the thing right over our heads? (NYC that is). I checked some historical maps - it looks like 2 frames (12 hours), the 850 low was right over NYC before it moved east. Then it looked like it hugged the coast of LI - way too close to draw in the cold. Upstate NY got smoked ala superstorm. The storm whose name I shall not say...

There should be 'worst bust' contest. I imagine it would come down to between March 2001 and '15. At least it snow some in '15. Maybe not everyone was around in 2001 to recall it, but the city went from 20 inches+ forecast to bupkis...all rain. Some people cashed in big in both storms, just not anywhere near where they were supposed to.