Brian5671

The writing was on the wall about a week to 10 days ago when the models bailed on the big cold. It's just not that cold. Today is considered "cold" and it's around 35 for the high which is roughly average for this time of year.... North American snowcover is at an all time low and the Great Lakes are warm/ice free. Hard to say for sure, but there's been other long term periods of relatively snowless winters. Regardless, we are clearly into one as snowfalls the last 3-4 yrs have been few and far between.

agreed, but most of the subforum is .25 or less. Yawn.

yeah I don't get it-I know the Euro was typically a pay model so maybe that was part of it-but how many times have you seen people buy into the GFS OTS bias only to get burned?

with a track of the second low I can see how it rains-regardless-QPF is minimal anyway

Also warm Great Lakes and low North American snow cover.

Where's the great pattern? A dud of a winter so far outside of the Dec event and 3 days of cold around that...

weird how it just craps out as it moves east.....

not sure why everyone gets excited for these-once in awhile it benefits us-but it's mostly a benefit for the other side of the globe....

well if it's not going to snow give me warmth. 40 and partly cloudy every day is worthless on the plus side the warm winter nationwide is helping with the pandemic-less disruption due to snow/cold, people can get outside, mass testing/vaxx sites can be set up easier etc etc. A 13-14 type winter this year would have been brutal in that regard.

Another winter with very little cold air anywhere in the country so far

Winters are warmer now. Seems like more of a DC type climate around here last 5-6 yrs

The +EPO is killing us this go around

Starting to look like other years where the pattern doesn’t materialize. Always seems to be around mid January

Seems more like a March pattern not much in the way of arctic air which will make track all the more important.

yep winds have been picking up here since about 1pm or so....temps in the low 40's. Models look to give LI and CT up to 2 inches of rain

it'll end at some point. It's weird to get dry and warm this time of year....next week is colder but you'd think with most of the days being dry it would be some cold/dry scenario

you know it's bad when a weak low north of Lake Superior is considering something hopeful.

regression to the mean. We've had a hell of a run, but the last few years show us that every year won't have 40-60 inches of snow here...

The GFS is not overly cold air-most of the truly arctic air is along the Canadian border with some intrusion into our area from time to time but nothing really out of the ordinary really.

38 here and cloudy-it's got that damp feel where you know it's rain coming and not frozen

he's right, if Jan is done snowwise, there's one more month of met winter.

I'll take one more decent storm and be happy. I think the idea of a longer lasting big pattern is on life support.

No cold air, suppression, meh, looks like January is about done...

that would work....something to track at least instead of 40 degrees and cloudy or partly cloudy every day

that's a cutter on the euro-mostly rain after some initial snow