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Everyone likes to hate on Ji...but a lot of you are just like him just with varying amounts. @psuhoffman - has his south trend meltdowns sometimes but at least they still have scientific backing and he backs up his reasoning. @yoda and I don't freak out when we miss a spring/summer severe day. We just have to try to get back on the horse and keep it going. It's not like we have "lost" this storm.

Weather weenies are a weird bunch to observe. I can understand saying a negative model shift is "concerning" or a "bummer" - but the kind of terms we all sometimes throw around are funny to see. "Disturbing" was one in the main thread. We love snow - but come on guys after the last year or two of missing out on snow I will take something I can shovel and run with it. I would love to have 12+ but if I get 6" so be it - it will look pretty and will be worlds better than any snow I've gotten the past two winters. Some of us folk on here have such wild mood swings based on computers crunching numbers. Trust me - back in 2006 I was as weenie as they come.

H5 closed low over western half of Ohio versus it being ESE of there on the prior run.

GFS to 51hrs looks fairly similar at H5.

The precursor to the NAM models was the ETA. Euro/ETA I believe

That low position on the NAM vs the Euro is strikingly close. EE rule coming back into form?

We can pick and over analyze all we want but overall through 78 it seems pretty similar to 0z. The normal noise adjustments of course.

H5 seems closer to being closed off at 72 than the 0z run. By a bit - nothing huge again.

I'm out to 60 on Pivotal right now. I don't see any massive changes. Just the usual noise it seems. But I only glanced.

Really a battle of the models. Getting close to being under that 100hr mark too. We'll see if the Americans or the Euro people win.

You just noticed this trend this winter only? In all seriousness that is how the models generally work every year. Outlandish solutions possible at long leads, slowly figuring out the details as we get closer and then fine tuning closer in. That's not a unique thing to this year.

Yep - initial slug looks great and then it dryslots.

Also low key kind of impressed that that signature is shown in an ensemble mean from this far out. Makes it a bit more believable.

The blocking is easing/breaking down. It seems as though it will probably recycle and give us another round of blocking in February. But that is not the same as this last round of blocking.

It'll wait until Tuesday or Wednesday to rug pull.

The high resolution/short term models have a tapering off and then some sleet/freezing rain with the subsequent slug.

Don't lie to us - it's definitely locked in, right?

Radar looks JUICY down in VA.

If only we could lock that in now. At least it's under 200 hours away....

Sounds like less pingers now - but I can see some flakes. Perhaps a touch of sleet and then rain/snow mix.

Getting rain and sleet in Colesville, MD right now. Remember to submit your reports using mPING!

@dtk would be a good one to ask too, I think. To be honest I'm calling BS preliminarily as well. 30 hours to adjust? Why wouldn't it be 24? Or 12?

It's run at the ensemble resolution not the op resolution.

@psuhoffman - There are young people in here! Good lord. That is a beautiful map.

This far out - thermals are the least concern. I think we should all be looking at the H5 pattern and how it matches or doesn't match with the surface result. Inside of 120 we can start sweating thermals. Not saying we won't have temp issues - but remember - the best storms usually do have their share of mixing and thermal problems. We'll see. Too early for now.