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He also completely ignored the fact that so many of our youth gravitate towards older music. The Beatles are still considered the greatest rock band of all time. Find me a young group today that is anywhere near how great they were or Led Zeppelin or Queen for that matter. This isn't just an "opinion" it's a measurable matter of fact. What separates great music from rank commercialism is that the former tells a story and if you take the music away, the words still matter, they read like poetry written by some of our greatest writers. To not notice the general degradation of society, and how that's reflected in music, is to bury one's head in the sand. Facts are facts.....the new generation is angry because they know that their prospects for a better life are not as good as the previous generation's were and they have every right to be angry. You get less quality for the same amount of money, or even worse, lower quality that also costs more. There are multiple reasons for this, but corporatism, commercialism, etc., are all part of it.

okay then let's find a logical reason for why music has gotten worse with time....commercialism. It isn't just music that's been degraded it's many other facets of life. Let's face it, we live in a time when instant gratification results in a poor diet, where half of Americans have become obese (this started around 2000) and thats when the diabetes epidemic started, chiefly because of the consumption of convenient processed food. This era of "convenience" has bled into other facets of life generally degrading quality of life while increasing costs. Music is just a reflection of that new reality. And a lot of youth are rebelling against this new commercial reality. You completely forgot about the comment where a poster mentioned that his own children and their friends prefer music from the 80s. That's right in line with what I've seen too. It has nothing to do with one's age but with a measurable lowering of the quality of life.

1966-67 sounds somewhat similar to 1995-96 but without the historic blizzard at the beginning of the month.

if 1959-60 ends up being a good analog, March could have a blockbuster. you know I loved 1966-67 (I would have if I was alive then lol) and came after an el nino in 1965 had the amazing 1966 summer and then the very long snow season of 1966-67 with the amazing February and March after the snowy Xmas eve in Dec. Weatherwise do you think Xmas Eve 1966 was probably the best one in NYC history?

winters where we get a sizable amount of snow in December are also usually long snowcover winters- 1947-48, 1995-96 and 2010-11 being cases in point. 1995-96 had a big thaw but then it got right back to snowing lol.

a good analog? I thought Dec 1995 also fit.

lol there's actually a place in Japan called Fujiwara and they got 7 feet of snow! Several all-time snowfall records had been set as of Friday, with 7.1 feet (2.2 meters) falling on the city of Fujiwara in three days’ time. Fujiwara is in Gunma prefecture, a mountain region northwest of Tokyo. A number of ski resorts are located nearby. Nearly 70 inches (178 centimeters) of Fujiwara’s snow accumulated in just 48 hours, breaking the previous record of 57 inches (145 centimeters) set in 2010. A record 72-hour December snowfall also occurred in nearby Tsunan, where 5.7 feet (1.9 meters) came down. Elsewhere along the spine of the Japanese Alps and Echigo Mountains, a broad four to six feet (1.2 to 1.8 meters) of snow fell, establishing a number of records. At least 1,000 cars were stranded Thursday on the Kan-Etsu Expressway, which connects Tokyo with Niigata. Some vehicles got stuck as early as Wednesday night. The traffic jam peaked in severity Thursday night, according to CNN Japan, with the chain reaction of halted vehicles spanning nearly 10 miles.

well the measurement was a good representation, JFK measured 7.2 and Marine Park had 7.5 and I'm 4 miles east of JFK and had close to 8 here.

Yes thats what I was thinking also....first an interior threat at the end of Jan and then -maybe- a BIG storm for the coast sometime between Jan 5 and the 10th. Notice now we're all thinking of 95-96 lol.

oh nvmd just saw it....having a power outage Xmas Eve night would SUCK.

whats the time frame for this?

I heard some in the media mention that the megaband up near Binghamton robbed N NJ and the LHV of moisture and that's why they got dryslotted in the early evening hours

I was somewhat surprised to see that JM in Huntington only got 8"- about the same amount I got in the western part of the south shore.

maybe we shouldn't clean up our aerosol emissions then....there is a school of thought that blocking 1% of the sun's radiation would be an effective greenhouse effect blocker, in the near term anyway.

Don what do you think of this talk of the la nina going away early this season? Is there any basis for this?

wait shouldn't this also include the Jan 2013 and 2016 storms, it's not just about the interior, it's happening all over the east....

and it's probably better for us if it happens in January, all of the ones you mentioned happened in January I believe.

Don I wanted to ask you about this: Since 1950, there have been five cases where a La Niña developed during June-July-August or afterward following an El Niño winter. 4/5 (80%) of those cases saw a predominant EPO+/AO+ winter pattern. The most recent such case was 2016-17. 10/11 (91%) of the La Niña winters that followed an El Niño winter featured a predominantly positive EPO. Aren't la ninas after el ninos supposed to be exceptionally snowy? Two cases in point are 1995-96 and 2010-11

whats the time frame for these high gusts? Christmas eve (night)? or during the day or what and how long are they forecast to last?

for the rest of Dec though you dont foresee another big snowstorm correct? This might be more like 1996 and we watch to Jan- which is fine by me. The longer we wait the bigger it'll probably be. Didn't someone say that when you have a 10"+ storm in Dec 9 put of 10 winters had another one later in the winter?

in January it might be better to have above normal temps and high noreaster activity, below normal temp Jan usually means a suppressed pattern and it can still snow in Jan with above normal temps- as a matter of fact that might be preferred.

Chris remember Dec 1995 when we had the mid Dec snowstorm and then it got very cold after that and the snowpack persisted through both Christmas and New Years and was even around for the Jan 1996 blizzard? We got the big melt a week or so after the big blizzard and we even had severe weather in Jan with temps in the mid and upper 60s with lots of flooding and the big Massapequa supermarket roof collapse!

according to the other guy the la nina is ending?

What are those three pterodactyl like things flying around on that map lol?

snowcover amount affects both highs and lows