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what time did you have your highest winds? It was really windy up here all night I could hear stuff being blown around in my yard most of the night and knocking into stuff (I fell asleep around 2 am and it was still going on even then!)
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49 mph gust at Bridgeport.....is this legit? if so it's the highest wind gust reported at one of our local area official reporting stations.
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July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
Walt, on a northerly to northwesterly wind, JFK is actually hotter than either NYC or LGA and more closely matches EWR. In SW Nassau County we are usually hotter than the city on those winds. -
July 2020 General Discussions & Observations Thread
LibertyBell replied to Rtd208's topic in New York City Metro
I'm telling ya Chris, the pattern this season has been utterly perfect for tropical systems to hit our area the hardest. This might be the most likely year of our lifetimes for this region to get hit by tropical systems. The heat to our north is a classic blocking pattern that makes that likely (Buffalo 98, second hottest on record, 96 in VT and ME, tied for hottest on record and 99 in Montreal, second hottest on record.). If we were in the area of the higher heat anomalies those tropical systems would be hitting the Carolinas and the SE, but this looks like the year of the MidAtlantic and Northeast. Next year is going to be the year of the big heat for us. -
Thanks- I think St George might be in Staten Island? The name sounds familiar- I've seen it before. The highest winds were on the central and southern NJ coast where there were reports of 57 mph gusts (one in southern Monmouth County and another one in southern NJ near Cape May I think.) On Long Island I think those two 46 mph gusts were the two highest reports, although I saw DMillz mention that he had a 55 mph gust? I dont see that mentioned in any report though.
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I saw a reservoir around here is using a solar powered cleaning system (chemical free) that cleans 100,000 gallons of water a minute, 24/7. No dangerous chemicals needed!
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wear gloves and handle gently! Thats what I did when a bumble bee came inside my house and it didn't sting me!
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why are insects so bold (less afraid) compared to birds? You'd think the smaller the creature the more afraid it should be of human beings. I've always wondered about that. Would diatomaceous earth help with mice too? I've gotten rid of most of them, but I'm not sure they're all gone and I want to be completely rid of them before the cold season comes. The last contractor who worked on my house left a few holes that I've been busy covering up. For the outside, I am using this UV lamp trapping container thing the exterminator recommended as a good nonchemical solution. It traps lots of flying insects (no birds, butterflies, dragonflies, bees, etc.)....so far it's been trapping mosquitoes, gnats, black flies, deer flies, all sorts of detestable pests like that.
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I know about all those problems, I only spray them inside my house, so relax :-) I plant stuff for butterflies and bees and hummingbirds to come, so of course I dont spray anything outside to kill them I just want to know where all these new insects I've never seen before come from. And more importantly, why are so many coming inside my house this year that I haven't seen inside ever before. I think it's because of the mild winter we had. I can't think of any other reason. For the outside, I am using this UV lamp trapping container thing the exterminator recommended as a good nonchemical solution. It traps lots of flying insects (no birds, butterflies, dragonflies, bees, etc.)....so far it's been trapping mosquitoes, gnats, black flies, deer flies, all sorts of detestable pests like that.
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I'm only using them inside for the bugs that come into my house. I know they're toxic because my throat was burning while I was spraying it lol. I have a bunch of stuff I specifically planted for birds, bees, butterflies, hummingbirds and dragonflies and an above ground "pond" where they come to drink water. On second thought, maybe that "pond" is causing more insects to breed, but I dont care, the birds absolutely love it! For the outside, I am using this UV lamp trapping container thing the exterminator recommended as a good nonchemical solution. It traps lots of flying insects (no birds, butterflies, dragonflies, bees, etc.)....so far it's been trapping mosquitoes, gnats, black flies, deer flies, all sorts of detestable pests like that.
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I looked through Walt's numbers and basically from Delaware through SE PA and Southern and South Central NJ up to Ocean County the totals were between 4-7" with the 7" amounts towards the southern end in Delaware. From Monmouth County north to encompass most of the area east to Nassau County the totals were between 2" to 4" with the 4" extreme end confined to the southern part of the area in Monmouth County. Most of our area saw between 2"-3" except for our friends in Suffolk County who sadly only got 0.1-0.5". I didn't see CT numbers but I expect they were also on the lower end, but not as low as Suffolk County, maybe more like 1-2", like around where the lower Hudson Valley ended up. Thanks to that stream of precip that kept going all night in NW areas, my location here in NE PA had around the same 2.50" I got back home in SW Nassau County!
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It kept raining most of the night here, Don, it was actually amazing with all the fireflies out Do you happen to have any figures for MPO? I've been on vacation about halfway between ABE and MPO, coming back tomorrow! It rained all night in NE PA and there were flood warnings all over the area. Based on the rainfall maps Walt posted, looks like I got the same 2.00-2.50 here that I got back at home in Nassau County! Was the maximum official wind gust in our area the 45 mph at JFK?
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It's been stated by a few experts that the winds projected near the center of these systems are hardly ever experienced on land. The usual difference between what's projected and what's actually experienced is about 15% (on average). That also happens to be the average difference between sustained winds and gusts. Looking around, the highest sustained winds experienced on land happen to be around 45 mph. That's close enough to the 15% figure. Also, please recall that the 60 mph sustained winds were projected while the center was still over water- about 25-30 miles offshore. It's actual landfall intensity was 50 mph. So I dont believe there was much of a discrepancy here.
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If you noticed the rainfall and wind patterns with Sandy, there were some similarities with Fay (on a much smaller scale.) Like you said, because of its much smaller size, there wasn't a surge component, but we knew that wasn't going to happen from the beginning. As far as rainfall and wind, the similar tracks the two shared (going into Atlantic City) placed the heaviest rainfall in Delaware in both cases and in both cases the effects were strongest from Nassau County westward. Fay produced about half the rainfall and half the winds that Sandy had (which means in reality it was only 1/4 as strong, and that's before accounting for its much smaller size.) Neither Sandy nor Fay produced as much tropical storm effects from Suffolk County northeastward. I've always maintained that Suffolk County has much more of a New England climate (this holds true both in the winter and summer) and the storms that are most likely to affect them also affect Boston. The storms that affect NYC and Nassau County the strongest belong to a different class altogether- the Midatlantic group- which also affect Delaware and New Jersey. During the 2010s and apparently going right into 2020 we've seen much more of the latter variety. There are many other examples of this (again during both the summer and winter)- Sandy, the Millenium storm you referenced and of course the Snowicane in late February 2010 come to mind immediately. Irene was also part of this pattern and I recall you were in Long Beach for that one. That would have been a better place to be with this one also. I expect this pattern to continue into the future with the much warmer sea surface temps we now have. Now looking forward to hitting 100 degrees later next week in this eventful and perhaps historic summer we have oncoming!
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You think this is bad? You should see what they say to climate scientists on Twitter....it's utterly embarrassing (for them).
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LOL see my post just above (well there's one in between.) Things like the above stick in my mind and from memory I can recall that at landfall the max gusts reported often match up with the projected sustained winds at landfall. So there's no reason for anyone to be "suspicious" of the 60 mph sustained wind report, the two reports of 57 mph gusts on the Jersey shore back that up. Back to current conditions, out here in the Poconos we have a flash flood warning extended to 1:30 AM DOT has shut down major roads and is warning people not to go outside. Rain is still falling pretty hard here, might get 3-4" at this rate by the time it's done.
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Typically you'll find max gusts matching the projected sustained winds of landfalling systems. There were a couple of reports of 57 mph gusts along the Jersey shore, one in southern Monmouth county and another one in Southern NJ near Cape May. That's close enough to the 60 mph projected sustained winds.
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what was the main reason no one up here saw the 6"-7" deluge they had down in Delaware and near Ocean City, MD?
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lol no. I appreciated seeing your post when I woke up, but I went to sleep around 1 am and at that time it was really quiet in here. I figured if no one was awake for the GFS no one would be awake for the Euro either.
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I was disappointed that no one was awake at midnight or later last night to post the GFS and Euro. That will be happening before we know it lol.
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we had a break for about 30 min and now it's pouring here again
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and 45 mph highest gust at JFK? Also, I dont know if this is something you have access to but do you have any idea what the rainfall amt was that JFK recorded in Bertha in July 1996 as well as the highest wind gusts? I recall Babylon had gusts over 70 mph to just above hurricane force, but I dont remember what the rest of the area had.
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Maybe you'll see a rainbow.
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You should have been in Long Beach for this one! I didn't mind being just north of Allentown for this one, it was pretty exciting with all the heavy rain today and even a nice dose of wind. I've learned through the years it's way better being a bit to the west of a storm, rather than being too far to the east ;-)
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Heaviest rain of the storm occurred here around 5 PM when it looked and felt like a monsoon, swaying trees too! Over 2"