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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
https://www.euronews.com/green/amp/2022/09/23/shell-bp-exxon-seized-emails-reveal-deceptive-climate-tactics-and-greenwashing Oil and gas companies may commit to net zero goals in public - but internal emails tell a different story. A US congressional investigation into climate disinformation has revealed over 200 pages of in-house messages between lobbyists and Shell, Chevron, and ExxonMobil employees. In these internal memos, personnel question their own environmental commitments and joke about climate collapse. Politicians and campaigners have slammed the companies for their “deception.” “These revelations are the latest evidence that oil giants keep lying about their commitments to solve the climate crisis and should never be trusted by policymakers,” said Richard Wiles, president of the Center for Climate Integrity. -
Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09644016.2021.1947636 ABSTRACT The role of particular scientists in opposing policies to slow and halt global warming has been extensively documented. The role of economists, however, has received less attention. Here, I trace the history of an influential group of economic consultants hired by the petroleum industry from the 1990s to the 2010s to estimate the costs of various proposed climate policies. The economists used models that inflated predicted costs while ignoring policy benefits, and their results were often portrayed to the public as independent rather than industry-sponsored. Their work played a key role in undermining numerous major climate policy initiatives in the US over a span of decades, including carbon pricing and participation in international climate agreements. This study illustrates how the fossil fuel industry has funded biased economic analyses to oppose climate policy and highlights the need for greater attention on the role of economists and economic paradigms, doctrines, and models in climate policy delay. -
No there is a big argument for not using average temperatures because that also factors in low temperatures. That's not how "hot" is defined. "HOT" is defined by the number of 90 degree days. The more 90 degree days a summer has, the more hot days a summer has....the data speaks for itself. 90 degrees is the threshold for "HOT" not low temps in the 70s or 80s or whatever. And last I checked Boston isn't in our region.
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where's this coming from? That thing isn't even a tropical storm anymore
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Yeah I mean it happened in NJ but nowhere east of there. Someone said this summer was hotter than 1999 and drier-- no way the whole area was over 100 in 1999 and much drier-- we had a major drought until Floyd hit. 1999 had the hottest month on record in July 1999 until July 2010 came along and 20 90 degree days in that month alone! This was a moderately hot and dry summer.
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Damn almost made it through all of met summer without significant rainfall. Well at least we did it through all of astro summer. The weird thing is even with all this dryness and heat we still didn't hit 100 anywhere this summer except for EWR. I wonder why that is-- it's said that you need a dry summer to get to 100. You can even get there if the sea breeze comes in later in the day because the dry weather causes the temps to rise much faster in the morning-- I've seen it hit 100 here as early as 11 AM in such scenarios.
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I loved how the sun came out in the middle of the day lol. Was that the "eye" of the storm haha?
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What's causing all this early season cold weather Don and what are its implications on the winter?
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That came really early in the morning. The sun was out during the late morning to mid day hours. When was the last time JFK had an inch or more of rainfall?
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Extremely windy tonight!
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It will be over $100 billion
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Question is when will people learn the lessons these storms are trying to teach us?
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It really is splitting hairs though. I find it ridiculous that 157 mph is considered minimum for Cat 5 when the information is output in 5 mph increments. 111 mph for Cat 3 is even worse. We should just use multiple of 10s for categories.
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-BRIGHT- sunshine here now! Yay the baseball games WILL be played!
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Looks like the sun is trying to break out yay! Don, when was JFK's last 1" rainfall?
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and 100 heat index!
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the classic pattern for a cold and snowy winter is average September- cold October- mild November- cold December and then cold through Marchand sometimes even April.
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This is why artificial aerosol injections are seen as a way to stop climate change.
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Do you realize all those winters were extremely boring outside of 1977-78 don't you?
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What exactly is causing this rare consistent cold pattern this time of year? Some random typhoon recurvature?
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And if you catch HR number 62 you could be a millionaire!
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6678524/ And here is a presentation for why processed red meat increases cancer risks by 30% or more (specifically colorectal, stomach and pancreatic cancer.)
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You see this in spring too, snow at nearly 50 degrees surface temp
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Yes that's entirely on them. And when these storms come and they need to evacuate-- they're on their own. If they stay behind they're responsible for whatever happens too.
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That's a good point, so a scale that incorporates both the size of the storm and the wind (so a total energy output scale) should be used. The only question would be, should there be a separate surge scale, or should we incorporate both surge and wind features into one universal scale?
