LibertyBell

We are well and truly screwed.... I got a 3C rise by 2100 as the most likely scenario from the graphs I looked at.....that would mean that it hasn't been this warm since over 3 million years ago, before a single human roamed the earth? Those were the days of Australopithecus and Lucy living in eastern Africa (Tanzania/Kenya.) Just as a point of reference, Don, how hot was it when the dinosaurs roamed the earth in the Cretaceous and flowering plants did not (could not) exist? This doesn't even mention the massive mass extinction event humanity has caused which is killing off many species vital to our existence (read pollinators.) Once again, we are well and truly screwed.....

Okay so I was reading the graphs correctly. From the report I got that a 3C rise was the most likely outcome, do you concur? 4C is considered the likely ceiling, but who knows at this rate. What's this new report that's supposed to come out in March 2022? I heard that one will be important too.

Fortunately we have conscientious activists like Greenpeace who have exposed the fossil fuel cartels for what they are. They bribe our politicians and lie to us, they have no intention of reaching any "targets" in the taped recordings they revealed they just say these things to try to improve their public image. That applies to the entire cartel. And only the idiots believe them.

Chevron's entire board needs to be in prison for what they are putting lawyers through who are suing them for dumping toxic chemicals in third world countries like Ecuador which are killing people.

The thing though is that there are those of us who knew all this back in the late 80s, and the people who were denialists then are still (mostly) denialists now- with a few exceptions of course. You can't change the minds of deniers, you just need to wait for them to die off. I wish they'd use much stronger wording (I think they did in the report but not a lot of that was mentioned in the media) basically that this is an extinction level event that if we dont change our ways as a species our time on this planet will be extremely limited. That's what needs to be said.

I mean plant based is mentioned in the report and it's also better for your health but unless we switch over more rapidly to renewable and nuclear then it won't matter at all.

Isnt Chevron the company that's bribing conservative judges to put lawyers who are suing them under house arrest?

Since they specifically mentioned central Antarctica I wonder if they found the difference to be because Antarctica is a continent vs the Arctic.

Don did you see the graphs of the different temp rises with different emission rates? Would you say the most likely scenario is a 3C rise before stabilization occurs (if we achieve net zero by 2050.) What kind of devastation would we see by a 3C temp rise? By the way we need to cut down on both CO2 and Methane, otherwise all the efforts will be a huge failure. They also mentioned a 2 meter sea level rise by 2100!

The new IPCC report is out- it's bleak. https://twitter.com/i/events/1424568170749202438 The only way to stop these corporations is to execute them with the death penalty and to organize a Nuremburg style court system on them and seize their property and all their assets and to utilize the military on them to destroy them to smithereens and round up their leaders and imprison them for the rest of their lives. Money constitutes power and the only way to destroy power is to bring the force of arms against it. The fossil fuel cartels must be declared enemies of the planet and of humanity and be punished accordingly.

The new IPCC report is out- it's bleak. https://twitter.com/i/events/1424568170749202438 The only way to stop these corporations is to execute them with the death penalty and to organize a Nuremburg style court system on them and seize their property and to utilize the military on them to destroy them to smithereens and round up their leaders and imprison them for the rest of their lives. Money constitutes power and the only way to destroy power is to bring the force of arms against it.

Is that for Vostok? They're usually the coldest place there.

we better not be waiting for 2060 to make some big changes.

We usually have a nice July 4th, with Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend more likely to be rainy. A few years ago, we had a rain out for all 3 days of Labor Day weekend!

what seems reasonable is that Antarctica has better ice retention because it's a continent.

Paradoxically, warmer oceans may mean bigger snowstorms in the winter, at least in the short term.

wow two all time awful winters in that list 1931-32 and 2001-02

Rain just got into most of the city and Westchester, but it looks like they will get under a quarter of an inch there. Hey Don I was looking at the position of the low and it's a coastal hugger so very close to the coast. Why is it that rain didn't make it further inland....a low that passes just under western long island, you'd expect a larger rainshield extending at least 100 miles to the west and northwest of the low?

Rain has made it into most of the city now as well as Westchester, temps in the 60s now in the city.

someone sent me a link to wunderground wundermap and I clicked on precip and it showed that about 1.5-1.8 inches fell across the western and central parts of Suffolk County. Less to the west and the east.

wow for a second I thought that was in Virginia! with this recent report about the changing ocean currents, how will this impact SST up our way, Chris?

it messed this up last time too, which was earlier in the season when the waters were much cooler

Yes, I've noticed this often. JFK actually has higher temps than the other airports even Newark for the first half of the day and only levels off or slowly falls after about 1 PM. Imagine if it was a westerly or even northwesterly flow all day, JFK would always have the highest temps in the region.

Hey I have two gardens to take care of lol, so both need to get some love. I'm going to be there for the Perseids meteor shower peak though, I had an amazing experience seeing them last year from there, first time I've ever seen shooting stars change colors as they fell- I think being away from lights made the experience much better. Some even looked like they came really close to hitting the ground- must've been an optical illusion but it was still a lot of fun.

So JFK and surrounding area could hit 90 each of those 3 days, Chris?