37 sounds like a rain/snow mix....how low does the temperature get during the storm? In my experience it has to be 36 degrees for snow to stick at all and that's only when it's falling at least an inch an hour.
2/22/08 was amazing and you're right, it came in in the middle of the night! I don't think it was a Lakes Cutter like this one is either and both the air and water were a lot colder than they are now.
I mean that makes sense. I don't know of any situation where we've had an accumulating snow with a storm on that track with no arctic air pressing down.
I heard that happened on Bald Hill on Long Island lol.
I'm still waiting for that one storm where it's snowing on the 2nd floor of my house and raining on the ground floor (or snowing at tree top level and raining at grass level.)
Yeah that's what I was saying, is this a general oceanic circulation thing that affects all oceans now.....are the western parts of all oceans becoming much warmer than the eastern parts? I can see WHY that might be happening. With more heatwaves and a general west to east movement of circulation it stands to reason that western basins would become warmer than eastern basins all over the northern hemisphere at least. Perhaps the same is happening in the Atlantic.
Think about it this way, at first it was being said all of February would be mild and snowless, now you're cutting into the first 10 days of the month.
Because we have to combine this info with temperatures (which are warmer than they were back in the 80s.) The temperatures even with blocking have become warmer than they used to be.
Also I have bad allergies today, from this @!#$%^ wind. To now be having allergies in Januaries is something I hadn't thought possible.
Aren't the cooler waters off the west coast the direct result of the warmer waters in the West Pac though. It's a push-pull thing I guess.
I wonder what's going on in the East Atlantic? Maybe the eastern basins of the major oceans are cooling off while the western basins are heating up?
How come the troughs from the previous years on the west coast didn't cause as much rain as this one? It's basically saved California from forest fires and exceptional to extreme drought!
That was so awesome because it was a very strong el nino and basically an enhanced version of 1982-83. Now we can talk about what caused the enhancement (some of that was definitely climate change.... Chris posted some research showing that the warmer waters added a kick to that storm causing more snow to fall than would have otherwise fallen.)
Yes but that makes those low snowfall periods more likely, which is what we're looking at now.
Also, indices aren't as useful as one might think. We need a certain type of el nino just like we need a certain type of negative NAO.
I wonder what the chances are of a 2002-03 or 2009-10 type of el nino. Granted, getting to high end moderate doesn't mean it's going to be cold or snowy, 1994-95 and 2006-07 were like that too.
The ironic thing is it isn't just us, this has been happening in large parts of the world that expects snow and relies on snow. That removes the "luck" part of the argument for me.
Sure they can produce (in a relative sense) but there is a cap of around 4 inches in bad patterns. I've seen that before several times. But in a global climate that is becoming warmer and less snowy everywhere (not just here) this is the kind of thing we should expect to be happening more frequently.