LibertyBell

I see a 5.5 near Plymouth that seems to be a snow peak area for them just like Monmouth County is for us lol.

I keep asking this lol-- what kept this storm from going further west? Not enough SE ridge?

Extremes are the new normal.

1970-1999 (really just the 70s and 80s) were historically bad. If that happens again it means the effects of climate change are becoming stronger and we need to expect this more often. I do believe that by 2050 if not earlier NYC average snowfall will be in the teens and probably under 10 inches by 2080. There is no such thing as "regression to the mean" when it comes to the climate-- it is always changing, there is no magic "mean" where it settles.

Yep, I would say it's extremely likely we end up with under 10 inches this month if we don't get a few inches this month. That sounds obvious but that's historical precedent for this area. Under 5 inches will become a strong possibility too. If we don't get at least an inch this month, I don't believe we will get to 10 for the season.

We have to go with historical precedent at this point so I'd say it's likely we end up with under 20 inches of snow and quite possible it's under 10 inches when the season is finished. Of course under 5 inches if it's historically bad for snow.

Thanks for these-- I don't have any images from that storm, so I'm saving these!

It was more fun than Boxing Day!

One of my very few all day zero visibility blizzards! I call it semi- January 2016, because everything about it (snowfall totals, blizzard duration, etc.) was exactly half of January 2016! I really loved that all day white out!

The forecasts I looked at stated mixed precip inland and rain near the coast, Don....looks like the same thing we had in December?

Ugh I thought you said previously no SSW this year? Does this look to be on the level of what we got in 2018?

Likely inland. Where we live probably not.

on the plus side the models are doing better because this winter is so futile even they can see it lol

I hope we roast.

Does anyone know how to pronounce this guy's name? I've heard everything from "Dable" to "Da-ball" Now that's he's famous he should change his name to something more easily pronounceable.

and the Giants will beat the Eagles! Finally!

Thanks I knew one of them was overnight lol. And I think Feb 1991 was the 30 hour 8"+ snowstorm which was a huge surprise?

We just might beat that 332 day measurable snowfall record

Thanks! I'm glad you included the early 90s too, because I was looking for 1981-1993 there were a bunch of weird small to moderate snowfalls in there that really stick out to me. Vets day 1987 is definitely memorable for me, I remember that 1.1" well, it stuck to everything, including the roads, that was a very cold even if minor snowfall. And the latest seasonal on record for JFK was April 19, 1983, the year after the big blizzard, when they recorded 1.5" before it changed to rain, 2-4" across Long Island I did not even remember the Christmas Eve snowfall in 1989 but that makes sense because of how cold it was and of course Christmas 1980 was the coldest one on record.

late Feb 1991 was that the surprise 30 hour event that also dropped over 8"?

Thanks that was amazing-- one of our rare daytime heavy snowstorms! And a very rare positive bust in the 80s! Didn't that storm keep going all day and end early in the evening? That's what I remember. I used to call 976-1212 for my local weather conditions and updated forecasts back then, the local conditions updated every hour. I called the 516, 212 and 914 area codes for that number to get the conditions at Islip, Central Park and White Plains lol. I would average out Central Park and Islip to try to figure out the numbers for Nassau County-- it's all I had back then. Do you have any idea what the 7" snowstorm at LGA could have been? Maybe it was the same snowstorm-- but I thought that one started in the late afternoon or early evening and went on all night and ended the following morning? I just need to find a list of all 4"+ snowstorms between 1981 and 1993 lol.

The question is why didn't it snow when we had the el nino pattern? Was the timing very poor so that when you have an el nino pattern early in the winter it means mild rainy weather and when you have a la nina pattern later in the winter it means mild dry weather? So basically we had each type of pattern at the worst possible time?

and a lot windier and stronger too-- more reason for this to come west

That stream of moisture into California is very much like a very strong el nino too

That arctic blast was amazing, the first true arctic blast in our new house which we moved into in May 1984 (after another very cold winter with a couple of back to back moderate 4-5 inch snowfalls...I think those were in February.) I just distinctly remember an 8.6" snowfall occuring sometime during the first winter in our house that only changed to drizzle at the very end. I wonder where we can find the top snowfalls from the 1980s, that 8.6" snowfall has to be in there somewhere. There was also a 7" incher where I got locked out of my house because the door was frozen shut-- I think that was in January....the 8.6" measurement was at Central Park and the 7" measurement was for a different storm at LGA. Also consider that even though 1983-84 and 1984-85 had periods of historic cold from time to time....they also had winter 70 to even 75 degree temps at other times lol.