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It's possible a coating could still be a T especially if it's only on colder surfaces. Here on the south shore of Long Island in SW Nassau it only accumulated on cartops and rooftops and JFK also measured a T

and no place within a 30 min drive that has things you can do right (outside of skiing that is.)

Probably better than the Monticello I was going to recommend lol

I was looking for a place to post this and this seems like as good a place as any. I saw a fascinating documentary about ball lightning and why scientists were so skeptical about it for so long. It really can't be replicated in the lab for any long duration-- they do reproduce the ball but it lasts for a vanishingly small amount of time before it disappears. But they got the ultimate embarassment when a ball of lightning passed right through an airplane which contained scientists returning from a convention, it literally passed right down the aisle and from the nose of the plane right out the back. Now they couldn't be skeptical of it any longer. THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS NOT EVERYTHING THAT OCCURS IN NATURE IS REPRODUCIBLE IN A LAB..... SOME THINGS CAN'T BE EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE AND WE HAVE TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. NATURE >>>>> SCIENCE

My friends in Germany have told me they have not seen a single snowflake fall in Berlin and the Alps are barren of snow with only small patches in Austria and Switzerland where people are being sent to the ER because they are "skiing" on small patches of snow and getting severely injured (as in dislocated spine injuries!) These are the same places that had historic heat over the summer. On the plus side the problems they could have faced with a cold winter and fuel shortages have not materialized.

That definitely looks like a rose floating in the sky.

Yeah this is like taking a perfect game into the sixth inning.....

below freezing? it will have to be below freezing for any snow to stick

I don't lol, there is no arctic air (and you will need that this year to get any real snow) and this storm is a Lakes Cutter with very marginal temps, wet snow quickly changing to rain .....

I sense that you don't believe in a magical measureable snowfall event on Wednesday either.

It's not even going to go below freezing ..... where is this magical snow going to come from? You may see snowflakes in the air but nothing will accumulate unless it's the same coating we saw with all the other events. And did you see the track of that storm-- it's a Lakes Cutter! At some point we have to stop looking at models and acknowledge reality.

We may hold off on that SE ridge then, from what I've read that should show up after the first week of the month.

Yes they went extinct here and new ones were brought over from Europe. Rats and mice are not native to the US either but you'd never thought it if you live in NY lol. I don't believe any cats or dogs are native to the Americas either-- unless you want to include wolves, coyotes and bobcats lol.

and those same places also had historic heat in the summer.

Yeah what the hell is he talking about? My friends in Germany have told me they have not seen a single snowflake fall in Berlin and the Alps are barren of snow with only small patches in Austria and Switzerland where people are being sent to the ER because they are "skiing" on small patches of snow and getting severely injured (as in dislocated spine injuries!) On the plus side the problems they could have faced with a cold winter and fuel shortages have not materialized.

Meh I hope we just get a trace. There is no real evidence showing anything will accumulate, the temperatures won't even be below freezing and there is no arctic air around.

and no native horses anywhere in the Americas

the climate is always changing so there is no true representation

January used to average below 32 degrees (so did February at one point) but now they both average well above freezing-- thus our climate is now considered subtropical (no month averaging 32 or below.)

Honesty we should have been transitioning beginning in the 80s. Why does computer tech develop so fast and these other industries don't?

Yeah no snow days that I remember between the 80s and early 90s.

Yeah that's a dead industry. Literally

No a dumber number like 1.0 because you know he didn't even measure it, he just jotted down a number lol.

Let's hope the pollution doesn't hurt them.

Yep, those were the big ones and we appreciated them more because they were so rare.