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Don what was the final 2001-02 average DJF temperature? If we finish second to it in temperature but have less snow than it, we will achieve a higher score than it, correct?
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He keeps saying "not all patterns are the same"
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You keep saying this but the fact remains that those of us who are close to the ocean and in the southern part of the region ALWAYS GET SCREWED. There's a reason the media always says "NORTH AND WEST" Because that's where all the snow is and will remain.
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Is this kind of like December 2005 to you?
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It reminds me of December 2005.....0 here, 6 inches for Central Park, double digits in New England
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depends if its at the end or the beginning, if its a few inches that quickly gets washed away-- no thanks
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115 mph, 6 miles on the ground 200 yards wide path
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would be like 0 here lol
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it's climo dude, our snow season here usually ends with February. People to the north do better.
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should have been for THIS Saturday
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Right, this is not the kind of set up where we see a significant snow storm
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will likely be rain here then or a mix.
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Problem is, as Chris and I have discussed in previous years, this is a highly stable pattern and tends to last for a few years.
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Yep basically agreed with cape. for - nao to work the Pacific needs to cooperate....it doesn't need to be great but it can't be utterly hostile either
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this is also why -nao rarely worked out in the 80s too
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record cold and record warmth in the CONUS at the same time, how much of a role did that play?
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early season el nino pattern and late season la nina pattern is the worst possible combo lol
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Yes I believe that's how we got snow in March 1998. That's actually quite an exciting pattern to have cold air just to our north because there's a certain amount of unpredictability-- volatility like you said. Models often underdo the progress of the cold air and historically we get colder than what they predicted.
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I'm not sure if cold air to our west is any good though, that pumps up the SE Ridge does it not? Cold air to our north is actually better, it can seep in without moderating much. Cold air to our west moderates quickly due to downsloping before it gets here, and it usually gets here after precipitation leaves (it dries out the air via that same downsloping process.)
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I can see that happening, March is known for fluke events in bad winters.
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Yes the beginning and end of the month are better, the middle two weeks however, were just as bad and in some cases worse than January. We hit 70 on Long Island and spent multiple days in the 60s.
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Yes but you need that 50/50. In my experience that doesn't happen down here that often to get a decent amount of snow. More farther north of course.
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February is definitely better than January but still very bad. Remember we spent a long time in the 50s and higher this month. The beginning and end of the month were/will be better though.
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Yes that's what I meant, trailing waves depend on luck. Insofar as luck exists lol-- that would be it. That is the climatology of our region, we need to lock the cold air, that's why snowy periods are so rare down here.
